Believe the Bible - or mock the Bible - which do you choose?

[Colter]

Niagara Falls’ erosion rate (4 – 7 feet per year) indicates an age of less than 8,400 years. (Don’t forget Noah’s Flood could have eroded half of the seven-and-a-half-mile-long Niagara River gorge in a few hours as the flood waters raced through the soft sediments.) (6, p. 39; 7;12, pp. 48-49).


"The Wisconsin Glacial Episode, also called the Wisconsinan glaciation, was the most recent major advance of the North American ice sheet complex. This advance included the Cordilleran Ice Sheet, which nucleated in the northern North American Cordillera; the Innuitian ice sheet, which extended across the Canadian Arctic Archipelago; the Greenland ice sheet; and the massive Laurentide ice sheet,[1] which covered the high latitudes of central and eastern North America. This advance was synchronous with global glaciation during the last glacial period, including the North American alpine glacier advance, known as the Pinedale glaciation.

I love that story.



Not in real life.

errrrrrm, after the glacier melted......... and that particular river channel was established...... the erosion started.

 

[Colter]

He preached "from all of scripture" -- "beginning with Moses" according to the actual Bible in Luke 24:27.

He preached about the reality of the Genesis account and origin of Marriage.

And He preached about hell - the Rev 20 "Lake of Fire" even more than heaven.

Your statement indicates that you are not reading the Bible that you so freely condemn.

The Bible is the work of the Holy Spirit according to 2Peter 1:19-21.
Christ says that we are not to attack the Holy Spirit in Matt 12.

It is the only link between us and the Gospel according to John 16 and John 3 - because it is the "Spirit of Christ" the one He sends to reach the soul.

Warfare against the Holy Spirit is like the drowning man choosing to cut the rope from the life saver that was tossed out to him.

When you say "original gospel" you mean "made up urantia-gospel that is in opposition to the one that we find in the Bible".

Even you will admit to this Urantia-not-the-Bible choice you are making.




Please focus on actual fact. Are you saying that I have "imagined" Luke 24:27????


Details matter.



Less making-stuff-up.... more Bible please.

Ask the Jews if Jesus was the Jewish Messiah, they will show you why he wasn't based on the scriptures they wrote. The problem wasn't Jesus, the problem was the false expectations of a king type of figure to fill the seat of the exaggerated king David.

Hell doesn't exist, there s either life and death. Preachers preach hell because they don't know the truth and have no faith in the original gospel of the Loving God. So they preach fear of the eternal torture God.

The Bible is a collection of books written by holy men, some more holy than others. Church government establish their authority by claiming that the boos they wrote were written miraculously by a double minded, conflicted deity.

When I say original gospel I mean the one Jesus taught before the cross. But you cant acknowledge or face the consequences of this truth so you must pretend that Jesus taught Paul's gospel of "Christ and him crucified" 3 years before the rejection, arrest, trial and murder of Jesus ever happened.

Today we are born into a ready made religion.

 

[Colter]

The church didn't burn anyone at the stake. It was the secular authorities.

Yea sure, they never cover up for pedophiles and child abuse either, it's only the secular people who do that!

 

[Colter]

Niagara Falls’ erosion rate (4 – 7 feet per year) indicates an age of less than 8,400 years. (Don’t forget Noah’s Flood could have eroded half of the seven-and-a-half-mile-long Niagara River gorge in a few hours as the flood waters raced through the soft sediments.) (6, p. 39; 7;12, pp. 48-49).


"The Wisconsin Glacial Episode, also called the Wisconsinan glaciation, was the most recent major advance of the North American ice sheet complex. This advance included the Cordilleran Ice Sheet, which nucleated in the northern North American Cordillera; the Innuitian ice sheet, which extended across the Canadian Arctic Archipelago; the Greenland ice sheet; and the massive Laurentide ice sheet,[1] which covered the high latitudes of central and eastern North America. This advance was synchronous with global glaciation during the last glacial period, including the North American alpine glacier advance, known as the Pinedale glaciation.

I love that story.



Not in real life.

And what is it that is eroding at Niagara falls?


"The top rock formation was composed of erosion-resistant limestone and Lockport dolostone. That hard layer of stone eroded more slowly than the underlying materials. The aerial photo on the right clearly shows the hard caprock, the Lockport Formation (Middle Silurian), which underlies the rapids above the falls, and approximately the upper third of the high gorge wall.

Immediately below the hard-rock formation, comprising about two thirds of the cliff, lay the weaker, softer, sloping Rochester Formation (Lower Silurian). This formation was composed mainly of shale, though it has some thin limestone layers. It also contains ancient fossils. In time, the river eroded the soft layer that supported the hard layers, undercutting the hard caprock, which gave way in great chunks. This process repeated countless times, eventually carving out the falls.

The Bible is good for spiritual truths not earth science or history.

 

[4x4toy]

The Bible is good for spiritual truths not earth science or history.[/QUOTE]


Colter .. Jesus genealogy is traced back to David through two lines , then on back from David to Adam and Eve who were created in God's image from the dust .. The 6th day of Creation week ..

All your time studying evolution lies to make God out a liar has failed .. Pride is your killer ..[/QUOTE]

 

[BobRyan]

Niagara Falls’ erosion rate (4 – 7 feet per year) indicates an age of less than 8,400 years. (Don’t forget Noah’s Flood could have eroded half of the seven-and-a-half-mile-long Niagara River gorge in a few hours as the flood waters raced through the soft sediments.) (6, p. 39; 7;12, pp. 48-49).


"The Wisconsin Glacial Episode, also called the Wisconsinan glaciation, was the most recent major advance of the North American ice sheet complex. This advance included the Cordilleran Ice Sheet, which nucleated in the northern North American Cordillera; the Innuitian ice sheet, which extended across the Canadian Arctic Archipelago; the Greenland ice sheet; and the massive Laurentide ice sheet,[1] which covered the high latitudes of central and eastern North America. This advance was synchronous with global glaciation during the last glacial period, including the North American alpine glacier advance, known as the Pinedale glaciation.

I love that story.

And Noah's flood was disproven long ago.

Not in real life.

And what is it that is eroding at Niagara falls?


"The top rock formation was composed of erosion-resistant limestone"

Hint: Limestone is made of seashells -- world wide flood "again".

Most limestone is composed of skeletal fragments of marine organisms such as coral, forams and molluscs.

Are you trying to make your case or mine??

The Bible is good for earth science, history - facts, undeniable truth and for guiding one toward heaven and away from the Rev 20 lake of fire.

Evolutionism is good for shooting-one's-self-in-foot.

 

[BobRyan]

, Jesus wasn't the Jewish Messiah

Less making-stuff-up.... more Bible please.

Ask the Jews if Jesus was the Jewish Messiah, they will show you why he wasn't based on the scriptures they wrote.

If your argument is that you and the Jews that crucified Christ, both reject Jesus as being the long-promised Messiah of the Bible -- i can hardly refute that particular point because it is clear you and they - do agree on that point.

But that just means you are both wrong.

 

[Colter]

Niagara Falls’ erosion rate (4 – 7 feet per year) indicates an age of less than 8,400 years. (Don’t forget Noah’s Flood could have eroded half of the seven-and-a-half-mile-long Niagara River gorge in a few hours as the flood waters raced through the soft sediments.) (6, p. 39; 7;12, pp. 48-49).


"The Wisconsin Glacial Episode, also called the Wisconsinan glaciation, was the most recent major advance of the North American ice sheet complex. This advance included the Cordilleran Ice Sheet, which nucleated in the northern North American Cordillera; the Innuitian ice sheet, which extended across the Canadian Arctic Archipelago; the Greenland ice sheet; and the massive Laurentide ice sheet,[1] which covered the high latitudes of central and eastern North America. This advance was synchronous with global glaciation during the last glacial period, including the North American alpine glacier advance, known as the Pinedale glaciation.

I love that story.



Not in real life.



Hint: Limestone is made of seashells -- world wide flood "again".

Most limestone is composed of skeletal fragments of marine organisms such as coral, forams and molluscs.

Are you trying to make your case or mine??

The Bible is good for earth science, history - facts, undeniable truth and for guiding one toward heaven and away from the Rev 20 lake of fire.

Evolutionism is good for shooting-one's-self-in-foot.

Lol! You left out limestone and Lockport dolostone from the 400 million year old Sulerian period. You also fail to note the origin of the 18,000 year old Niagara River which came from the 100,000 year old ice sheet. But you pick facts that support blind faith YEC and ignore others. That's what dishonest people do.

 

[Colter]

The Bible is good for spiritual truths not earth science or history.[/QUOTE]


Colter .. Jesus genealogy is traced back to David through two lines , then on back from David to Adam and Eve who were created in God's image from the dust .. The 6th day of Creation week ..

All your time studying evolution lies to make God out a liar has failed .. Pride is your killer ..

I never said God was a liar, ever! the holy men who claimed that their own writings were Gods writings created that false dichotomy.

Bloodlines are only important to the religions of authority and racial arrogance. But it doesn't matter, Jesus left and went back home.

 

[4x4toy]

I never said God was a liar, ever! the holy men who claimed that their own writings were Gods writings created that false dichotomy.

Bloodlines are only important to the religions of authority and racial arrogance. But it doesn't matter, Jesus left and went back home.

Is Jesus God ?

 

[dqhall]

In 2Peter 3:8 Peter wrote a day is like a thousand years. I suppose a day might be like a billion years to some, but that is not rightly dividing the truth.

 

[Colter]

Is Jesus God ?

Jesus is a Son of God, divine, co-creator of our world, he has a Father, he is a Father. He incarnate as one of us, he revealed his Father, The Father who IS manifest in himself.

 

[lismore]

Yea sure, they never cover up for pedophiles and child abuse either, it's only the secular people who do that!

You said the church burned people at the stake, I pointed out to you that was incorrect. I don't see the relevance of your remark about paedophiles to that.

 

[Colter]

You said the church burned people at the stake, I pointed out to you that was incorrect. I don't see the relevance of your remark about paedophiles to that.

No, you made a legalistic nonsence excuse for the churches behavior. There is a long list of the more noted victims of the church. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_burned_as_heretics

 

[4x4toy]

No, you made a legalistic nonsence excuse for the churches behavior. There is a long list of the more noted victims of the church. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_burned_as_heretics

Colter , Who is Christ Michael ?

 

[Colter]

Colter , Who is Christ Michael ?

Michael is the Sons heavenly name, he was given the name Jesus while on earth. Having returned to Heaven with all power and authority he is now known as Christ Michael by his subordinates. John saw this in his vision on Patmos.

 

[4x4toy]

Michael is the Sons heavenly name, he was given the name Jesus while on earth. Having returned to Heaven with all power and authority he is now known as Christ Michael by his subordinates. John saw this in his vision on Patmos.

How did you escape from your straight jacket ?

 

[Colter]

How did you escape from your straight jacket ?

Mark 3:21

20Then Jesus went home, and once again a crowd gathered, so that He and His disciples could not even eat. 21When His family heard about this, they went out to take custody of Him, saying, “He is out of His mind.” 22And the scribes who had come down from Jerusalem were saying, “He is possessed by Beelzebul,” and, “By the prince of the demons He drives out demons.”…

 

[4x4toy]

Mark 3:21

20Then Jesus went home, and once again a crowd gathered, so that He and His disciples could not even eat. 21When His family heard about this, they went out to take custody of Him, saying, “He is out of His mind.” 22And the scribes who had come down from Jerusalem were saying, “He is possessed by Beelzebul,” and, “By the prince of the demons He drives out demons.”…

So the scribes had a problem seeing Jesus as the only begotten Son of God and were in danger of commiting the unpardonable sin .. I agree they had a big problem .. Do you ?

 

[Colter]

So the scribes had a problem seeing Jesus as the only begotten Son of God and were in danger of commiting the unpardonable sin .. I agree they had a big problem .. Do you ?

Judaism didn't have a concept or belief that Gid had a Son who was also God. Thus was revealed in Jesus. They also mocked and questioned the sanity of Jesus.