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Really, you're going to keep on harassing me? Here's an excerpt from the rules you say you know really well;

● Stating or implying that another Christian member, or group of members, are not Christian is not allowed.

Now please go away or I will report you.

Responding to you is not harassing you. In case you did not notice this is a discussion forum with means that your posts can be responded to by anyone. I can see how you are intimidated by me, since your science education appears to be extremely deficient.


I will grant that this site is a bit prejudiced in their application of their rules as you have shown. Of course a true Christian would realize that if one cannot discriminate against those that agree with them should also not discriminate against those that disagree with them.

Once again I am only here to help poor lost souls like you.
 
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Responding to you is not harassing you. In case you did not notice this is a discussion forum with means that your posts can be responded to by anyone. I can see how you are intimidated by me, since your science education appears to be extremely deficient.
I will grant that this site is a bit prejudiced in their application of their rules as you have shown. Of course a true Christian would realize that if one cannot discriminate against those that agree with them should also not discriminate against those that disagree with them.
Once again I am only here to help poor lost souls like you.

● Respect another member's request to cease personal contact.

Guess you just can't help yourself. Consider yourself reported.
 
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● Respect another member's request to cease personal contact.

Yeah... the way that works is that you stop responding to the thread. :/

Mark 8:12 He sighed deeply and said, “Why does this generation ask for a (scientifically verifiable) sign?
Truly I tell you, no (scientifically verifiable) sign will be given to it.

So in other words, "I know what it will take to convince you, and you aren't going to get it."
 
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Yeah... the way that works is that you stop responding to the thread.

You guys come in packs or what? Do I have to report all you Atheists for trolling?
 
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Look at that, an atheist telling me all about God! No offense but given the amount of time you've been on this form and the number of posts you've accumulated, I have no desire to talk to you whatsoever. Buh by. :wave:
Pray for him, bro.
 
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Alert!

Please return to the topic of the OP.

In addition, personal addressing members in a negative manner needs to stop. That is flaming and violations may result in warnings or the thread may be closed.

Regarding no contact: No contact is in respect to personal communication, not threads. However, responding in a negative manner or personalized manner that is argumentative when asked to cease communication, can be a violation. Responding to the content of a post without personal hints and sticking to that content is allowed even if there is a no contact request in other settings (profile, PM, blessings, etc.). If you're having ongoing issues with a member who you've asked to cease contact, then go to Member Services and discuss your options with an admin.


Please review the site rules and the Statement of Purpose for this forum.
 
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And you may not know this, but most atheists know more about the Bible than most Christians.
Satan knows It through and through.

But then Satan isn't an atheist either.

He just promotes it.
 
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No, Paschal's wager is a wager for the lost -- not the saved.

Those of us who are saved have already won the wager.

From our perspective of course, you've just placed your bet.
Confidence, even absolute confidence, in it being the winning one is not quite the same thing.

Yes, I know it does't look/feel that that from your side.
That's an almost inevitable part of the situation.
 
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So, in one of the earlier posts the question was posed, "were you there". That concept many problems but here are a few I wish to relate.

  • Of course, the "were you there" question concerns the validity of radiometric dating. The same can be said for the person posing the question. If you were not there, then what evidence can you bring forward to show there is a problem.
  • Concerning such evidence, the doubter would have to show the the natural laws and principles of physics and chemistry were different in some capacity.
  • Additionally, if those natural laws and principles don't apply, then essentially nothing exists as we know it. Thus, we would not see the same chemistry and physics in rocks, strata, and the paleo-environment that we see today. But the fact is, we do see the same chemistry and physics.
 
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Yes and it was a great experiment. The fact that he wasn't able to observe what he theorized was only because of the lack of technical prowess or ability.

The same applies to evolution, and to all scientific theories. Theories try to explain what we can't observe, and they do so through what we can observe.

I don't have a problem with this but I don't really get why 'Germ Theory' is still called a theory when it's been proven, observed, and is falsifiable?

Because no one has directly observed a microorganism causing infection. All we an point to is the correlation of the microorganism and the disease.

What exactly is it that motivates different branches of science to have their own rules?

What motivates you to misrepresent how the different branches of science operate, and to misrepresent how the scientific method works?

Again you keep comparing apples to oranges.

Apples to apples. Ignoring the evidence does not make it go away. If we can use evidence that was created in the past in a murder trial, why can't we use it in science?

Moreover, you can construct testable and falsifiable hypotheses on what you should see in the present if evolution is true. That is entirely in keeping with the scientific method.

How exactly do you test something that you can't verify is accurate without assuming it is?

I already showed you. We can directly observe the past by using astronomical observations. We can directly observe the constancy of radioactive decay by looking at the mixture of isotopes in things like the naturally occurring nuclear fission reactors in the Oklo mine. None of those observations are assumed.

It's been tested by an unproven technology that has not been physically and actually observed or falsified?

The technology is proven and it uses the observations of known and measured isotopes in rocks.

Nope, not what I said. Please try your call again.

Do you agree that the evidence we have in the present was produced by past events? Yes or no?

Yeah it's funny how that happens when people don't give you proof.

I have given proof. Sticking your head in the sand and pretending it doesn't exist isn't a valid argument.

No you're asserting that I'm just saying that science doesn't understand creation and assumes things not in evidence.
Well I guess I am being presumptuous and presumptive. I guess not only scientists can have their cake and eat it too. :)

I have given you the observations, and you ignore them. What more to do?
 
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Guess you just can't help yourself. Consider yourself reported.
That would mean no unwanted private messages. This part of the forum is public. You are posting for the public to see and so am I. have made no personal contact with you and have no intention to.
 
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No, Paschal's wager is a wager for the lost -- not the saved.

Those of us who are saved have already won the wager.

No, it is a losing bet. Any god worth its pillar of salt could tell the difference between real belief and the false belief of Pascal's wager. Here is something that should make it clear to you: Could you make a false belief in Allah for yourself? I would say no. Even if you tried and and then died and found out Allah was the right God do you think he would have been fooled?
 
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That would mean no unwanted private messages. This part of the forum is public. You are posting for the public to see and so am I. have made no personal contact with you and have no intention to.
It includes personally addressing my posts otherwise it would statement no PMing.
 
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It doesn't include public postings, only private ones. You don't get to pick and choose who responds to your posts in a public forum.
And you don't get to choose to interpret the rules yourself. I've asked for this rule to be interpreted, but from experience I know that this rule is not limited to PMs on other sites.
 
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