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Exodus 20:9-11 (Creation)
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But it was in all innocence that the word became "virgin" in greek. The translators of the Septuagint translated that word as "virgin" in greek and they did this before Christ.
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That's right.
So he said.
Anything wrong with that?
Jeremiah 20:9 Then I said, I will not make mention of him, nor speak any more in his name. But his word was in mine heart as a burning fire shut up in my bones, and I was weary with forbearing, and I could not stay.
God's standards are different.Colter said:
1 Samuel 16:7b ... for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart.
2 Corinthians 10:7 Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? If any man trust to himself that he is Christ's, let him of himself think this again, that, as he is Christ's, even so are we Christ's.
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That's because it was written by Hebrew men.
That is correct.
Hebrews didn't write Genesis 1-11.
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Yes God does know your heart. He knows you don't believe Jesus was the atoning sacrifice for sin.
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Don't you mean "Michael Jesus" knows your heart?
Jesus wasn't murdered.Colter said:
John 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
In fact, He made three more statements from the Cross after His heart had exploded in His chest cavity.
When the proper time came ... and only when the proper time came ... Jesus said ...
IT IS FINISHED!
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Jesus wasn't put on trial, found guilty and crucified? Not the sharpest tool in the she'd there son.
Yes, the incarnation requirement to achieve unquestioned sovereignty of his own creation was complete. But man is so self centered he can't help but to think everything is about his guilty conscience.
God was already forgiving to those who simply repented and asked. Jesus had tied his authority to teach to his death and resurrection not forgiveness.
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There may be apparent contradiction...but when studied in their proper context...they are always shown to be apparent contradictions.
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No, it's when they are rationalized away in order to maintain Biblical idolatry that group think adopts a flimsy comfort about it. But the authors were writing in preacher speak, they made no claim of writing Gods Words. After the return from Babylon future generations of priestly elite began to call the redacted books "scripture" in order to derive their institutional authority.
Many shamans in many religions claim their scripture books are divinely inspired.
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Here are some things Urantia teaches:
- Prayer is not to be attempted until one has "exhausted the human capacity for human adjustment." In addition, "words are irrelevant to prayer."
- The biblical doctrine of atonement (Hebrews 9:22) "unnecessarily encumbered Christianity with teachings about blood and sacrifice."
- The home is seen as a "sociological institution," and the belief that marriage is a sacred state is called "unfortunate." "Deity is not a conjoining party" in marriages that dissolve.
- Mankind's parents were named Andon and Fonta, who procreated Sontad.
- Adam, Solomon, and David were not in the direct line of ancestry of Joseph, the father of Jesus.
- Jesus adopted the term "Son of Man" at age fifteen after reading a passage in the so-called Book of Enoch.
- During his twenty-eighth and twenty-ninth years on earth, Jesus toured the Roman world, accompanied by the natives from India.
- The indwelling Christ is not essential to salvation, since "Jesus does not require his disciples to believe in him but rather to believe with him."
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Let me translate these more or less accurate extrapolations, AV1611VET can't explain an old earth or the layers upon layers of fossil record preserved within it. So, he googles a book about a book he hasn't read that he's sure he disagrees with in a desperate attempt to discredit my salient points.
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