Exodus 20:9-11 (Creation)

[BobRyan]

I live near Balitmore, MD. As I look out my window at 11:12 pm it is indeed dark. No "story" needed, just simple observation.

indeed - so which heaven do you think you are in now - first, second? , third?

Paul says there are 3.

 

[Queller]

So you don't believe the Genealogy's in Luke and Mathew are accurate ?

Since you specifically asked me to respond, I believe that Jesus is the descendant of Abraham through David.

To which of the multiple and different explanations for the radical differences in the geneologies between Luke and Matthew do you subscribe?

 

[BobRyan]

Which is relevant because?
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Because salvation was active in the OT just as in the NT - so Enoch and Elijah with Christ in Matt 17 - shows an active born-again real Gospel salvation process in both OT and NT.

interesting that in Gal 1:6-9 Paul confirms that in all ages - only one Gospel and says in Gal 3:7 that the Gospel was "preached to Abraham".

Who also did not get the life of Christ "one letter at a time" but rather Christ said Abraham "SAW My day and was glad" John 8.

 

[BobRyan]

Since you specifically asked me to respond, I believe that Jesus is the descendant of Abraham through David.

To which of the multiple and different explanations for the radical differences in the geneologies between Luke and Matthew do you subscribe?

the one that combines them.

Now back to Ex 20:8-11 "six days you shall labor...for in SIX DAYS the LORD made" -- in legal code... not parable.

 

[Queller]

you missed the point - all the mountains would have been wiped out in less than 100M years due to erosion - except for the newer ranges still under recent forces such as the Indian plate example.

I assume you are responding to me even though you didn't quote my post.

What is your evidence that all mountain ranges would be wiped out in less than 100 million years?

As another poster pointed out, the Appalachians are being "wiped out" as we speak but they are well over 100 million years old.

 

[Queller]

indeed - so which heaven do you think you are in now - first, second? , third?

Paul says there are 3.

The one referred to in Psalm 8.

Could you get to whatever point you are meandering around?

 

[4x4toy]

Since you specifically asked me to respond, I believe that Jesus is the descendant of Abraham through David.

To which of the multiple and different explanations for the radical differences in the geneologies between Luke and Matthew do you subscribe?

One was Joseph husband of Mary traced back through Mary's line . The other was Joseph the legal but not biological father of Jesus traced back through his biological father's line.. But the question was do you believe the time line back to Adam and Eve

 

[Queller]

the one that combines them.

Which one is that?

Now back to Ex 20:8-11 "six days you shall labor...for in SIX DAYS the LORD made" -- in legal code... not parable.

The legal code was set in reference to the allegorical time periods as given to Moses by God. Just like every other time the days of Genesis is referenced as such.

Despite the unsourced claim that God showed Moses the creation, God described His work in creation in terms Moses could understand.

 

[Queller]

Because salvation was active in the OT just as in the NT - so Enoch and Elijah with Christ in Matt 17 - shows an active born-again real Gospel salvation process in both OT and NT.

I still don't see how that is relevant to the post being replied to.

interesting that in Gal 1:6-9 Paul confirms that in all ages - only one Gospel and says in Gal 3:7 that the Gospel was "preached to Abraham".

Who also did not get the life of Christ "one letter at a time" but rather Christ said Abraham "SAW My day and was glad" John 8.

And where does the Bible say that God showed Moses the creation week.

 

[Hoghead1]

Which one is that?

Now back to Ex 20:8-11 "six days you shall labor...for in SIX DAYS the LORD made" -- in legal code... not parable.

The legal code was set in reference to the allegorical time periods as given to Moses by God. Just like every other time the days of Genesis is referenced as such.

Despite the unsourced claim that God showed Moses the creation, God described His work in creation in terms Moses could understand.[/QUOTE]
If you hold with the Mosaic authorship of teh Pentateuch, then yes. But I don't. I find that idea went out the window eons ago in modern-day biblical scholarship.

 

[Hoghead1]

Which one is that?

Now back to Ex 20:8-11 "six days you shall labor...for in SIX DAYS the LORD made" -- in legal code... not parable.

The legal code was set in reference to the allegorical time periods as given to Moses by God. Just like every other time the days of Genesis is referenced as such.

Despite the unsourced claim that God showed Moses the creation, God described His work in creation in terms Moses could understand.[/QUOTE]
As I said, if you hold with the Mosaic authorship of the Pentateuch, then yes. But I don't. I hold with the DH, because it gives the most robust analysis and account of the texts.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Really, because it seems like you are deciding that you are right and I am wrong

I'm deciding the Bible is right and you are wrong. Honestly, you should have already picked up on that.

You have made no attempt to support your claim that I twisted your words. You have simply made the claim.

Why do you think it is you have to pound away at some non issue that you "think" you might be right about?

Losing ground everywhere else? Your going to be right about something if it takes all night? Your insecurity is sticking out like a sore thumb.

 

[Queller]

One was Joseph husband of Mary traced back through Mary's line . The other was Joseph the legal but not biological father of Jesus traced back through his biological father's line..

So why do you discount the "levirate marriage" explanation? That was the explanation accepted at the time. The "Luke's geneology is that of Mary" didn't come along until almost 800 years after the birth of Christ.

But the question was do you believe the time line back to Adam and Eve

That was not the question at all. The question was

So you don't believe the Genealogy's in Luke and Mathew are accurate ?

 

[Queller]

If you hold with the Mosaic authorship of teh Pentateuch, then yes. But I don't. I find that idea went out the window eons ago in modern-day biblical scholarship.

As I said earlier, I'm not going to get into that debate. It is irrelevant to the point being made.

 

[Queller]

As I said, if you hold with the Mosaic authorship of the Pentateuch, then yes. But I don't. I hold with the DH, because it gives the most robust analysis and account of the texts.

Is there a reason you felt the need to reply to the same post of mine two times? Especially with only slight differences in content?

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

For the same reason you guys "know" it's the original Hebrew: faith.

Luke 1:1 Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us,

Why do you think this "original Hebrew" stuff is still around?

It's because the common people wouldn't touch them.

Why wouldn't they touch them?

Because they knew they were forgeries.

Which will wear out faster? a Bible you use everyday, or a Bible that sits on your bookshelf and never touched?

In other words, you have made an arbitrary choice with no reason behind it. Well, it's good of you to confess that. Of course, acting for no reason means being unreasonable, and you have to live with the results of that.

 

[Queller]

I'm deciding the Bible is right and you are wrong. Honestly, you should have already picked up on that.

No, you're deciding that your interpretation of the Bible is right and mine is wrong. Honestly, you should have already picked up on that as it has been pointed out to you about 50 times already.

Why do you think it is you have to pound away at some non issue that you "think" you might be right about?

Because you made a claim that I twisted your words yet refuse to support that claim with any evidence.

Losing ground everywhere else? Your going to be right about something if it takes all night? Your insecurity is sticking out like a sore thumb.

Projection

 

[4x4toy]

So why do you discount the "levirate marriage" explanation? That was the explanation accepted at the time. The "Luke's geneology is that of Mary" didn't come along until almost 800 years after the birth of Christ.

That was not the question at all. The question was

So you don't believe the Genealogy's in Luke and Mathew are accurate ?

OK , Do you believe Mary is descended from Adam and Eve in like manner as Joseph ?

 

[Kenny'sID]

Is there a reason you felt the need to reply to the same post of mine two times? Especially with only slight differences in content?

Who cares?

More trivial finger pointing. It it weren't so obviously pitiful what you are doing it would be entertaining.

 

[Queller]

OK , Do you believe Mary is descended from Adam and Eve in like manner as Joseph ?

Sorry Clarice, quid pro quo. You don't get to keep asking me questions while ignoring mine. Answer mine first then we'll move on.