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Nonsense! There is plenty of observable proof of old earth evolution of life validated by radiometric dating. The absence of proof of a singular YEC event is what must be defended because there isn't any. But the only thing the anti-science crowd has is the vilification of the men who simply provide the facts.

Your problem is that radiometric dating has dated known ages of rock to millions of years old .. Known 6yr old rock from Mt St Helens tested out over a million years old .. Other known new formed rock from other volcanos also tested millions of years old ..
 
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The fact you claim it is a lie definitely does not mean it is one. If anything, it makes you appear quite arrogant, as if you are in a position to sit in judgment on all these scientists, you, a lay person.
He's also replacing evolution with something else (creationism).

So it's not like he's just calling evolution wrong and leaving it up to us to wonder why.

He's replacing it with its antithesis.
 
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He's also replacing evolution with something else (creationism).

So it's not like he's just calling evolution wrong and leaving it up to us to wonder why.

He's replacing it with its antithesis.
What on earth are you talking about here? It has nothing to do with what I posted.
 
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What on earth are you talking about here? It has nothing to do with what I posted.
Didn't you say this?
If anything, it makes you appear quite arrogant, as if you are in a position to sit in judgment on all these scientists, you, a lay person.

If I told you that A was the opposite of B, and you believed it, then you believe B is wrong, don't you?

You may not even know what A and B are -- so long as you believe in A.

B is wrong, in your estimation, and everyone who believe in B are wrong also.
 
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And thus the proof of the lie. The lie is strata and dating are accurate. When they are not. There are plenty of examples where dating has been faulty and rock strata does not fit the prescribed theory thus making the theory moot. Evolution is a farce and a man made theory with no actual proof. There is no,proof because it cannot be observed or duplicated. It based on assumptions and suppositions.

Let God be true and every man a liar.

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Well, it sure would seem to be the case then that you, as an unqualified lay person, know far more about it than all these scientists, whom you know to be deceivers. Hmmm. Very interesting.
 
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So even though Adam is mentioned throughout the bible and even included in all genealogy's you believe the secular religion of "evolution" over God and His word?
It isn't a question of evolution vs God's word. it is a question, however, of how accurate one's understanding or interpretation of the Bible is. Are we to go with fundamentalist ideology, with the notion that God dictated the Bible word for word to purely passive scribes who wrote it down accurately, that God intended the Bible to be an accurate geophysical witness? Or, are there other, more viable alternatives? I vote for the latter.
 
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Knowing the religion of "evolution" is just a satanic pseudo science that has of yet been substantiated but makes many unfounded claims I'll stick with what God hath said and as of yet hasn't been proven wrong.
Yes, it is Satanic science but that is according to fundamentalist ideology. No this ideology is simply something man-made. So who says we all have to accept it as correct? I sure don't. Of course, the SOP is that that any biblical scholar who dares disagree with the fundamentalist version of the Bible is automatically to be declared a child of Satan, lost soul, you name it. So they can condemn myself and other fellow Christians to Hell who don't kowtow to their ideology, all day long. I don't care. You know, under the circumstances, I am happy I am gong to hell; I know I will be able to hobnob with a better-educated, higher-level clientele.
 
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So even though Adam is mentioned throughout the bible and even included in all genealogy's you believe the secular religion of "evolution" over God and His word?
I believe that there was an Adam and Eve, two incarnate celestials who were to be the worlds new spiritual rulers under the authority of the Son of God, but were outflanked by the former fallen prince. The old earth was already populated, already fallen, it had evolved from a much, much older life creation event.
 
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Knowing the religion of "evolution" is just a satanic pseudo science that has of yet been substantiated but makes many unfounded claims I'll stick with what God hath said and as of yet hasn't been proven wrong.
The Bible has many errors but the proud deny the flaws as they see the ends justifying the means. Religion lags behind the rest of the educated world by centuries.
 
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I believe that there was an Adam and Eve, two incarnate celestials who were to be the worlds new spiritual rulers under the authority of the Son of God, but were outflanked by the former fallen prince. The old earth was already populated, already fallen, it had evolved from a much, much older life creation event.
The bible doesn't support your claims because Adam and Eve were flesh and blood human beings as stated in Genesis not your opinion. BTW they had children of flesh and blood that Cain murdered Able.....so how does one murder a spirit?
 
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The Bible has many errors but the proud deny the flaws as they see the ends justifying the means. Religion lags behind the rest of the educated world by centuries.
It's not the bible that has errors but rather those like you that don't believe what God hath said.
 
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The bible doesn't support your claims because Adam and Eve were flesh and blood human beings as stated in Genesis not your opinion. BTW they had children of flesh and blood that Cain murdered Able.....so how does one murder a spirit?
Jesus incarnate as a human, did they kill him?
 
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Am I to take it from you that the Creator of universe is not permitted to speak from His own perspective?
Is God permitted to say things that may be difficult for the hearer to understand?
Re-read Genesis 1. Everything is written from the perspective of the earth. Evening and morning is on the earth. Thedre is no darkness in Heaven, thus no night. Also, were the days to be a thousand years long, so would the nights and nothing would live.
 
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