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What is time?

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Is time really just the way things behave and move in space? Is time a force of some kind? Do we know time exists in the far universe at all?

Time is a delay in the destruction we all deserve. God has created it
to warp reality. In Gods reality, if you are outside His presence, you
cease to exist. But God has delayed that inevitable result and given
us "time" to repent before our deserved annihilation.

Time started when Adam sinned.
 
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Come to think of it I recall a verse about Him chosing us before the world was made.
"For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight." eph1:4

1 Peter 1:20
He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.
 
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The Kabbalah is not really based on a guess it is based on an Oral tradition that goes back at least to Moses and maybe all the way back to Abraham and Adam.

By your traditions you make the word of God to no effect.
 
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Time is a delay in the destruction we all deserve. God has created it
to warp reality. In Gods reality, if you are outside His presence, you
cease to exist. But God has delayed that inevitable result and given
us "time" to repent before our deserved annihilation.

Time started when Adam sinned.
Wow. Time was here in the garden when we deserved nothing bad. Have to gong that one.
 
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"For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight." eph1:4

1 Peter 1:20
He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.
Right. So stuff happened before the world or heavens were created. You think stuff took no time to happen then?
 
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Interesting thread.

Seems to me that energy and time may be the same thing.
E=MC^2
Energy(E) = Mass(M) x Speed of light(C) squared. It just means that energy is the same as mass and velocity.. and in fact, when you reach the velocity of light, time stops.. or to say it another way, when mass is great enough (as in a black hole), time stops.

So is it reasonable to say that time is just energy?

If you could travel at the speed of light, YOU could go anywhere in the universe instantly, relative to YOU.. (not an observer)

So, if you wanted to travel to a star that was 1000 light years away, and you got into a spaceship capable of traveling through space at the same speed of light, you would arrive at your destination (1000 light years away), instantly as observed by YOU.. To the folks you left behind, it still took you 1000 years, but because YOU were traveling at the speed of light, time stopped for YOU.

Therefor, since mass increases with velocity, and time stops at the speed of light, Energy is the same as time.

How we interpret and observe time is another conversation.
 
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Interesting thread.

Seems to me that energy and time may be the same thing.
E=MC^2
Energy(E) = Mass(M) x Speed of light(C) squared. It just means that energy is the same as mass and velocity.. and in fact, when you reach the velocity of light, time stops.. or to say it another way, when mass is great enough (as in a black hole), time stops.
Then what about angels? They can beat light speed. Does time stop for them? They seem to know how to get where God sends them on time. Have you seen any man pass the speed of light? You really think if we did time would stop? That places man above time itself. How about time is there, and regardless of what the moon does or man does, it is still there on and near earth? Time does not have to and I suspect does not fall under physics or our universe rules! Our universe maybe also uses time in a way Jesus set up when He created it.
So is it reasonable to say that time is just energy?
Don't think so. The energy bunny can fall off a cliff and time will still exist. Energy as we know it is just a feature of this state anyhow.

If you could travel at the speed of light, YOU could go anywhere in the universe instantly, relative to YOU.. (not an observer)

So, if you wanted to travel to a star that was 1000 light years away, and you got into a spaceship capable of traveling through space at the same speed of light, you would arrive at your destination (1000 light years away), instantly as observed by YOU.. To the folks you left behind, it still took you 1000 years, but because YOU were traveling at the speed of light, time stopped for YOU.

Therefor, since mass increases with velocity, and time stops at the speed of light, Energy is the same as time.
How we interpret and observe time is another conversation.
Maybe it intercepts us?
 
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I agree about the future. But that may be too advanced for mere men of science that lurk about here or post.
As you're fond of saying:

It's beyond their paygrade.

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Time is the quotient of distance divided by velocity.
Congratulations, AV15611VET, that is almost right. Time is simply a ratio between two changing quantities. Sometimes one changing quantity is implicit, like the sum of neurological changes.

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Congratulations, AV15611VET, that is almost right. Time is simply a ratio between two changing quantities. Sometimes one changing quantity is implicit, like the sum of neurological changes.

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Thank you, sir! :)
 
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Despite the admittedly powerful intuition that time exists independent of the rest of physical reality, this is not the case: the flow of time is affected by local physical conditions (e.g. time flows more slowly near massive objects). If a perfectly accurate clock could be placed at each position in the universe, they would all show different times.
 
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As you're fond of saying:

It's beyond their paygrade.

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Eyes only. If they want eyes to see they can have them. If they love darkness, well, guess it has to remain out of sight and out of (their) minds.
 
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Congratulations, AV15611VET, that is almost right. Time is simply a ratio between two changing quantities. Sometimes one changing quantity is implicit, like the sum of neurological changes.

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And maybe sometimes one of those qualities is not in the physics box. Even if it were we might not know where in the box to look.
 
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Time is our perception of the increasing over-all entropy of the Universe.

Or so I've been told. :)
Impossible. Time cannot be a mere perception. Take a shoe and wear it a long time. It perceives nothing. Yet it gets smelly and old. Nice try.
 
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Despite the admittedly powerful intuition that time exists independent of the rest of physical reality, this is not the case:
You know this how? Have you been independent of physical reality? If so I might be wary of what you say!


the flow of time is affected by local physical conditions (e.g. time flows more slowly near massive objects).
No. You are guessing. How can you test that? The moon moves and is physical. It affects time? If there was no moon there would be no time? If the moon was bigger you would live longer? If you point a clock at the moon it goes faster?


If a perfectly accurate clock could be placed at each position in the universe, they would all show different times.
Says the theory made by men who have zero clue and never been anywhere at all out of their porch. Total speculation.

If space had been stretched out for example, and therefore time also and was say 'thinner' as we went from earth which was here FIRST, then at various points in space the amount of time per space if you will, would be different. Here on earth we always would observe in our time mix. It would look that way to us! Therefore you may not pretend it would be the same everywhere for no reason. This is all almost too much for my little mind.
 
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You know this how? Have you been independent of physical reality? If so I might be wary of what you say!
I say this because of overwhelming evidence: time is influenced by local physical conditions - the "speed" at which clocks run, and at which all processes run (including biological ones), is influenced by local physical conditions.
 
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No. You are guessing. How can you test that? The moon moves and is physical. It affects time? If there was no moon there would be no time? If the moon was bigger you would live longer? If you point a clock at the moon it goes faster?
I am not guessing! There is clear and substantial evidence - time speeds up and slows down based on local physical conditions. To deny this is to deny a clear, established fact.

And yes, the moon does affect how time flows here on earth. Time slows down in gravitational fields and the moon exerts a gravitational field.
 
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Says the theory made by men who have zero clue and never been anywhere at all out of their porch. Total speculation.
You clearly are not aware that tests have been done and repeatedly confirmed that the speed at which time flows depends on local physical conditions. And since local physical conditions cannot be exactly the same at any two locations, each clock will indeed run at different speeds.
 
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If space had been stretched out for example, and therefore time also and was say 'thinner' as we went from earth which was here FIRST, then at various points in space the amount of time per space if you will, would be different. Here on earth we always would observe in our time mix. It would look that way to us! Therefore you may not pretend it would be the same everywhere for no reason. This is all almost too much for my little mind.
Well what you write here is certainly too much for my little mind as I have no idea what you are talking about.
 
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