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Explosions in Brussels

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There is so much wrong in this thread and a couple of you legitimately strike fear into me with how unhinged you are. This thread is dripping with so much repressed racism and hatred, whether it's believed to be justified or not. It's frightening. I also agree with Papazoom. That guy's remarks are 2 steps away from a goosestep in Hugo Boss fashion.

There are people dying and all people can do is pull insane partisan rhetoric as if liberals or republicans have anything to do with this at all. Get a clue Sistrin.
 
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I don't think it says that at all. I thought it clever considering the context, history, and the rhetoric which drew the response. At any rate, unlike most breaking of Godwin's, this time there was a direct connection to the reference. Subtle but obvious as it was.
Why, thank you:)
 
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Touche indeed, nothing says, "I'm mentally unable to come up with an argument" like breaking Godwins law.
Have you been paying attention to this thread? My comment was quite relevant to some of the arguments being made.
 
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I´m just realistic. I believe we will have something gigantic going on. There is already so much hate and i see it on myself. I feel nothing towards muslims anymore. No compassion. I saw their children in TV in those mud camps in Idomeni and felt nothing. No compassion, no mercy. I´m just cold towards them. And its strange but it wasn´t always like that. It developed.

And its evrywhere. My colleagues openly send anti muslim stuff through whats app.

I think the german philosopher Nietzsche talked about whats going on. He said:

"when you stare long enough into the darkness, the darkness stares right back into you".

Well.... I guess we should be pleased with your honesty regarding your bigotted blind hatred towards more then a billion people, who, incidentally, are much bigger victims of this jihadi terrorism then we westerners are.

Yesterday 34 people died and some 230 were wounded.

As far as I recall, this was the worst terrorist act in Belgium ever.

But such attacks happen multiple times per day, every day in countries like Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Somalia, etc.

I think a bit of self-reflection would do you good.
 
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It still took longer than the typical "It's all Americas fault" post to appear, which was second post in!

Funny how this stuff had been going on longer and the same mindset has existed longer than the USA has been a nation and before Europeans even went to America.

Good job on ignoring the point that was made.

Which, obviously, was that American wars in Iraq is what paved the way for ISIS to form and grow.
 
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Why are people talking about refugees? Weren't these attackers born in Paris and Brussels?

Yes.

If memory serves me right (too lazy to look it up), in the Paris attacks in November, only 2 or 3 of the 10 terrorists were actually foreigners. All the others were born and raised in Paris or Brussels.
 
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No, they came from a refugee camp in Ulm / germany

No.

Khalid and Brahim El Bakraoui are the 2 suicide bombers from the airport. Both are from Brussels and not refugees.

Salah Abdeslam was part of the terror plot as well and was supposed to participate, but was captured last friday. He too is not a refugee.
 
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No he didn´t. He grew up in his isolated society with no connection to anything remotely belgian or european.

Dude.......... please, just stop talking about stuff that you obviously have NO CLUE about.

I actually know people that were in his class in high school.
Until just a few years ago, the dude was a pot-smoking party animal.
 
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I find it distrubing that you use the death of people for your agenda.

Says the guy that wants to use a terrorist attack to boot up the most massive ethnic / religious cleansing that Europe has ever seen.
 
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Well.... I guess we should be pleased with your honesty regarding your bigotted blind hatred towards more then a billion people, who, incidentally, are much bigger victims of this jihadi terrorism then we westerners are.

Yesterday 34 people died and some 230 were wounded.

As far as I recall, this was the worst terrorist act in Belgium ever.

But such attacks happen multiple times per day, every day in countries like Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Somalia, etc.

I think a bit of self-reflection would do you good.


What if i tell you i don´t care about the fate of our enemy?
 
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Says the guy that wants to use a terrorist attack to boot up the most massive ethnic / religious cleansing that Europe has ever seen.


We had more massive ones in the past. Isabella in spain was quite effective.

What we need to do is to create quarantine zones, bring them there and from there deport them into their origin place. There is no other way. I don´t trust them.
 
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Well, lets face reality:

The "let us stand togetehr, this has nothing to do with islam fraction seems not to work.

More and more people demand that something is done against it. And this will not be more false tolerance. This is about security and we are at war. We know who the enemy is and no liberal bla bla can change reality.
 
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Well, lets face reality:

The "let us stand togetehr, this has nothing to do with islam fraction seems not to work.

More and more people demand that something is done against it. And this will not be more false tolerance. This is about security and we are at war. We know who the enemy is and no liberal bla bla can change reality.
Sadly, we don't know who the enemy is, because those enemies are hiding between non-enemies, who might become enemies if things are done too ruthlessly.

You're quick to blame americans for radicalising many muslims in the near east with their unjust wars. Maybe we shouldn't make the same mistake.

Still, something truly needs to be done. But what?
 
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Whenever an atrocity takes place an apologist tells us that 'Islam' (Submission) is a religion of peace. He'll cite verse such as "whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind". (Surah 5:32), but the full quotation is "For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind. Our messengers came unto them of old with clear proofs (of Allah's Sovereignty), but afterwards lo! many of them became prodigals in the earth." and continues "The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom; Save those who repent before ye overpower them. For know that Allah is Forgiving, Merciful." From a plagiarised quotation from the Talmud he tries to convince us that it's a peaceful religion.

This is the true religion: Surah 9:29 "Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low." 9:73 "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end." 9:123 "O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)." 9:111 "Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. It is a promise which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an. Who fulfilleth His covenant better than Allah? Rejoice then in your bargain that ye have made, for that is the supreme triumph." 48:29 "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves."

In 'Islam' there is a a principle called Abrogation, in which earlier verses about things such as peace are repealed. 2:106 "Nothing of our revelation (even a single verse) do we abrogate or cause be forgotten, but we bring (in place) one better or the like thereof. Knowest thou not that Allah is Able to do all things?" Mohammed is to be emulated in all things. He was a warlord who among other things wiped out a Jewish tribe at Khaybar, beheading 600-700 men and raping the women. He was a man who married a nine-year-old girl; this is why there are sex attacks in Germany and Sweden and elsewhere where there are migrants; they have to imitate him in everything. In Östersund, in Sweden, 10-year-old girls have been assaulted, because their prophet liked them young. This is the true nature of their religion, and if there are are 'Muslim's who don't behave this way, it's in spite of their religion.
 
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Sadly, we don't know who the enemy is, because those enemies are hiding between non-enemies, who might become enemies if things are done too ruthlessly.

You're quick to blame americans for radicalising many muslims in the near east with their unjust wars. Maybe we shouldn't make the same mistake.

Still, something truly needs to be done. But what?

you know exactly what needs to be done.
 
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I was in Brussels a long time ago, 20 years ago, so beautiful, everything is so beautiful — it’s like living in a hellhole right now,” Mr. Trump continued.
So, wrong on at least two counts. Apart from general mental attitude.

In a Europe-wide survey some years ago (not to be found this minute, in a flurry of current event listings) citizens from Belgium came highest in ranking for wanting to leave their own country.
But it's far from a hellhole even now.

Mr Trump, it seems, likes painting with such a broad brush that it goes way over those little marker lines called facts.
 
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you know exactly what needs to be done.
I think that what needs to be done is to turn the "moderate" members of islam against their extremist brethren.

But what do you think should be done?
 
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