The Philosophical implications of Multiverse Theory?

[DennisTate]

Honestly, and without trying to be a buzzkill in this thread: I couldn't really care less what the "philosophical" implications are for any scientific idea.

It's not like it matters.... It's not like an actual scientific theory is going to be impacted by the notion that "philosophy disagrees". Those days are long gone.

True...... but his theory as well as the evidence in support of it indicate some extremely important aspects of the nature of our Creator and about the real depth and breadth of the plan for all of us!

Rom 11:32

For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

 

[DennisTate]

For ethics we need an ethos that will work in all universes. For epistemology a failsafe basis for knowing reality in all possible worlds. Theologically, one God above all others. And in terms of shopping for grocery, nothing changes.

It might make for a better conversation though with somebody you meet at the store and...... if we as Christians have a level of Shalom / Joy that is increased by five or ten percent due to an increase in our understanding........ people do notice!

Ecc 8:1

Who is as the wise man? and who knoweth the interpretation of a thing? a man's wisdom maketh his face to shine, and the boldness of his face shall be changed.

 

[DennisTate]

There are a variety of qualitatively different multiverse hypotheses, and more than one of them could be true at the same for our reality. It's not clear whether any of them correspond to your suggestion based on Ezekiel.

I believe that we are living in a time period when astonishing mysteries are becoming more and more clear all the time!

 

[DennisTate]

Actually I'd say that's a relatively naive viewpoint. The term "Let there be light", and the philosophy of "creation ex nihilo" are both highly instrumental IMO to the popularity of "big bang" theory.

Near death experiencer Mellen Benedict was shown an infinite number of Big Bang events taking place over eternity in the past....... This sure helps to explain what took place before Genesis chapter 1.

 

[DennisTate]

Interesting! Some of what I have read from near death experiencers has caused me to lean heavily toward Bosonic String Theory though with 26 rather than 11 dimensions of space - time!

 

[DennisTate]

I highly doubt that multiverse theory would have much legitimate impact on philosophy, were there more evidence for it and it became more widely accepted.

Ariela Solsol had a near death experience in 1967. She was shown a future where America was knocked out as policeman for the world and an Islamo - Communist grouping took over. The world descended into a chaos of injustice that America's mafia could have done a better job of organizing! What she saw has been delayed...... but can it be prevented altogether from even happening?

 

[PsychoSarah]

Ariela Solsol had a near death experience in 1967. She was shown a future where America was knocked out as policeman for the world and an Islamo - Communist grouping took over. The world descended into a chaos of injustice that America's mafia could have done a better job of organizing! What she saw has been delayed...... but can it be prevented altogether from even happening?

The United States never should have been the world's nanny to begin with. Also, as shown by Russia's reaction to ISIS, the extremist Islamic terrorist groups and the sort-of Communists aren't friendly with one another.

 

[DennisTate]

The United States never should have been the world's nanny to begin with. Also, as shown by Russia's reaction to ISIS, the extremist Islamic terrorist groups and the sort-of Communists aren't friendly with one another.

But Russia is cultivating a relationship with Iran and Syria by going against ISIS.

 

[SkyWriting]

Ariela Solsol had a near death experience in 1967. She was shown a future where America was knocked out as policeman for the world and an Islamo - Communist grouping took over. The world descended into a chaos of injustice that America's mafia could have done a better job of organizing! What she saw has been delayed...... but can it be prevented altogether from even happening?

Less Beef at suppertime is key.

 

[SkyWriting]

Supported science will always trump philosophy.

Said nobody, ever.

Doc·tor of Phi·los·o·phy
noun
noun: PhD

1. a doctorate in any discipline except medicine, or sometimes theology.
   • a person holding a Doctor of Philosophy degree.
     plural noun: Doctors of Philosophy; plural noun: DPhils; plural noun: PhDs

 

[PsychoSarah]

But Russia is cultivating a relationship with Iran and Syria by going against ISIS.

I would also like to bring up that Communist regimes do not like religions that don't involve worshiping the government, and often end up punishing those that continue to practice them. Islamic Communism is never going to be a thing.

 

[SkyWriting]

is G-d much more determined to lead all of us to salvation than we might perhaps even imagine?

hmmm.....just keep replaying the cosmos until everyone has saving faith?

 

[DogmaHunter]

Actually I'd say that's a relatively naive viewpoint. The term "Let there be light", and the philosophy of "creation ex nihilo" are both highly instrumental IMO to the popularity of "big bang" theory.

No, they aren't. Furthermore, those are theological statements. Quite irrelevant to physics.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Philosophers with attitude problems doesn't make philosophy bad.

I didn't say philosophy is bad. I said that it doesn't have much to contribute to the frontiers of the natural sciences.

Something philosophical can be said about particles being two places at once.

But only after the natural sciences discovers that particles can be in two places at once. That's my point. Before that discovery, philosophy will take the position that such a thing is not possible.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Said nobody, ever.

Doc·tor of Phi·los·o·phy
noun
noun: PhD

1. a doctorate in any discipline except medicine, or sometimes theology.
   • a person holding a Doctor of Philosophy degree.
     plural noun: Doctors of Philosophy; plural noun: DPhils; plural noun: PhDs

This seems like an extremely random response to my statement.

 

[FredVB]

Furthermore, those are theological statements. Quite irrelevant to physics.

Multiverse theory is quite irrelevant to reality.

 

[Chesterton]

I didn't say philosophy is bad. I said that it doesn't have much to contribute to the frontiers of the natural sciences.

I've read what you say in the thread I think you're just saying that only science should do science, and I agree. I think you're right there was a time in the past when philosophy and science were more intertwined, and it could have been a beneficial relationship. For a simple example, it might be true that philosophy led to alchemy which led to chemistry.

But giving a philosopher a new scientific discovery and asking him not to interpret it is like giving a child a new toy and asking him not to play with it. It's going to be done, and I think that will always be true. Darwinism, Einsteinian relativity and the Big Bang each have been philosophically interpreted for better or worse.

 

[Chesterton]

And then came quantum mechanics and lo and behold: particles can be in two places at once. You measure it in place X, but it shows up in place Y. Philosophers were disgusted by the idea. But guess what? Reality doesn't have to conform to the "common sense" of "thinkers".

Let's be honest, even though they observe it scientists are disgusted also. Anything which doesn't conform to normal human common sense and logic is going to disturb everyone.

 

[Michael]

Near death experiencer Mellen Benedict was shown an infinite number of Big Bang events taking place over eternity in the past....... This sure helps to explain what took place before Genesis chapter 1.

Thanks for demonstrating my point.

 

[DennisTate]

The United States never should have been the world's nanny to begin with. Also, as shown by Russia's reaction to ISIS, the extremist Islamic terrorist groups and the sort-of Communists aren't friendly with one another.

Near death experiencer Howard Storm was shown quite a bit about the role that G-d had planned for the USA.

Science, technology, and other benefits, they told me, had been gifts bestowed on humanity by them - through inspiration. People had literally been led to those discoveries, many of which had later been perverted by humanity to use for its own destruction.
We could do too much damage to the planet. And by the planet, they meant all of God's creation. Not just the people, but the animals, the trees, the birds, the insects, everything.

They explained to me that their concern was for all the people of the world. They weren't interested in one group getting ahead of other groups. They want every person to consider every other person greater than their own flesh. They want everyone to love everyone else, completely; more, even, than they love themselves. If someone, someplace else in the world hurts, than we should hurt we should feel their pain. And we should help them. Our planet has evolved to the point, for the first time in our history, that we have the power to do that. We are globally linked. And we could become one people.
The people that they gave the privilege of leading the world into a better age, blew it. That was us, in the United States.

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a04