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Does Science Agree With the Bible?

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You don't know how it works, science can't check.

Once again you demonstrate that you have zero idea how science works.

Yeah yeah, if you buy a burger and think it is green and smells bad you can ask another customer to check it. You can't check the future or the spiritual or the state of the past.

Yes you can.

The fact you disagree does not mean anything. I and others have explained how checking is possible.
 
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Only believers will inhabit the earth.

I'll believe it when I see it.

Look at what you said.

""Get other people to put it to the test. If it withstands those tests, then it's likely to be real."

FYI science cannot test the past future or spiritual, so is useless in the key aspects of the issues aurrounding creation.

Science can check the past state. Because a different past state will leave traces of itself, won't it?

As for checking the spiritual stuff, you can't even show me that it exists. Why are there so many diferent opinions on spirituality if it is an objective fact?

Nothing to do with creation. Science is OK for some things in the here and now.

So you just pick and choose what science to accept based on your religious beliefs. Unfortunately, reality does not care what your beliefs are. And when reality and your beliefs are in conflict, you better rearrange your beliefs, because you sure can't rearrange reality.
 
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Barbarian observes:
There is an objective reality, and we can learn about it by examining evidence.

No. You can't!

Of course we can. God made the universe consistent and knowable, and made us able to learn the truth. Denying this is to deny much of scripture.

Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him, from the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made; his eternal power also, and divinity: so that they are inexcusable.

There is too much unknown to be able to do that and overrule Scripture with idiot man's wisdom.

Maybe you should stop telling God what He can do.
 
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Barbarian observes:
There is an objective reality, and we can learn about it by examining evidence.



Of course we can. God made the universe consistent and knowable, and made us able to learn the truth. Denying this is to deny much of scripture.

Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him, from the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made; his eternal power also, and divinity: so that they are inexcusable.



Maybe you should stop telling God what He can do.
Speaking of telling God what He can do ... that verse you quoted is not what Paul wrote.

Let's correct it, shall we?

Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Since when does "Godhead" compute to "divinity"?

We all know God is divine, but even scientists can't grasp the concept of His triune nature (Trinity).

If scientists don't -- not "can't" ... "don't" -- if scientists don't see the Godhead in nature, perhaps their brand of science can take a hike?
 
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I'll believe it when I see it.
Excellent. You'll have to become a believer to see it of course. No one else will be here to see anything.

Science can check the past state. Because a different past state will leave traces of itself, won't it?
False. No state n the future or past can be checked by satanpsuedoscience.
As for checking the spiritual stuff, you can't even show me that it exists.
Done deal. Good and bad spirits have been a known thing all through history in every land. This is not a thread to ram the obvious into the head of deniers.
Why are there so many diferent opinions on spirituality if it is an objective fact?
Lots of spirits!


So you just pick and choose what science to accept based on your religious beliefs.
Science is religious beliefs. I merely expose that. I also show that those morbid beliefs oppose truth and all that is good and right.

Unfortunately, reality does not care what your beliefs are.
We get it. So reach in your jeans pocket and give reality a little pat on the back for being friends with you now, ok? Or maybe it is in your closet? Keep us posted.

And when reality and your beliefs are in conflict, you better rearrange your beliefs, because you sure can't rearrange reality.
There really should be a fine for you to even use the word reality.
 
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Of course we can. God made the universe consistent and knowable, and made us able to learn the truth.
No. It is a closed book to anyone but believers. They cannot find the truth. They see things and assume things and are delusional. We see stars and ought to praise the creator for them. Science sees stars and denies the creator using them as an excuse, because of the delusional dreaming they do.
Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him, from the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made; his eternal power also, and divinity: so that they are inexcusable.



Maybe you should stop telling God what He can do.
Invisible is not seen by science. What is seen they infer evil thoughts upon that have nothing to do with creation or God. Those who swallow that swallow death.
 
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Barbarian observes:
There is an objective reality, and we can learn about it by examining evidence.

Of course we can. God made the universe consistent and knowable, and made us able to learn the truth. Denying this is to deny much of scripture.

Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him, from the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made; his eternal power also, and divinity: so that they are inexcusable.


Maybe you should stop telling God what He can do.

Hi,

Even if you already know this when talking to people about God, Who in Genesis 1:28, commanded all of us to adhere to science, and to use science, I wanted to say it again.

That Blessing by God, in Genesis 1:28, to subdue the earth, is not refutable, nor changeable.

Lack of change can be shown at Babylon, with not spreading.

Additionally, Genesis 9:1, has a fill the earth Blessing. Genesis 1:28, has a fill the earth Blessing in it.

Babylon, was about not filling the earth. Those things they did there were to stay in one place, thus not following The Blessing God gave all people in Genesis 1:28, and then all people again in Genesis 9:1.

All those disembarking The Arc, were blessed again to fill the earth.

Filling the earth is spreading, and God enforced Blessing, when that Blessing was disobeyed.

Subdue the earth is a blessing.

Just in case, we meet little, science is to be followed. Romans 13:1-5, is about following science also.

How? The laws of the Government are based on science also. They use science to Govern, like even garbage collection, and sewage treatment, both of those items are science.

God gave us, Romans 13:1-5, through Paul. So, like anything from God the science part of that is to be followed also.

Off topic, but important to you later, maybe, is that Romans 13:1-5, says that all, legal governments have Good, in them.

LOVE,
 
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No. It is a closed book to anyone but believers. They cannot find the truth. They see things and assume things and are delusional. We see stars and ought to praise the creator for them. Science sees stars and denies the creator using them as an excuse, because of the delusional dreaming they do.
Invisible is not seen by science. What is seen they infer evil thoughts upon that have nothing to do with creation or God. Those who swallow that swallow death.

Unlike the Catholics, your personal interpretation of Genesis doesn't jive with any scientific facts. Instead of considering the possibility that *you* made the mistake rather than the majority, you bash "science". How sad.

You also have a very bad and predictable habit of associating "evil" with anyone/anything that disagrees with you personally. That's just cheesy.

FYI, "science" does see and experience the "invisible" in everything from subatomic particles to magnetic fields, so that part of your argument is just wrong.
 
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How would you know what science God has??!! Talk about making things up! God has records and knows everything about you. Meticulous records. What you thought he used a pencil and paper!? Whatver man has is a pitiful little joke compared to what God has. Believe it.
 
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<staff edit> (Thank-you. I think I know why.)(I thought that I could allow that, barely, as it was coming from atheists, who don't know any better yet. Further by being very angry at God, they pass the test of not being Luke Warm, towards God.) (Although hard to understand, God liking those who are very angry with Him, over Luke Warm Christians, by my Therapist friend George D******, his point was hate is love, in humans.

What they hate they love, but they do not normally know that. So, humans, even this one typing here, think hate is hate, until they are trained educated, and have enough experiences to find out that indeed this is so in humans.

The issue, is caring. Love to us is when someone we care about pleases us. Hate to us is when someone we care about does not please us.

So if that is Real, and if God knows that, then of course He Likes humans who love Him, but also those that say and act like they hate Him, as both are strong emotions and actions with Someone they care about.

Really, that is why, I let some things, not all things slide. I consider the person. The nice thing about some atheists, is they are so honest, they make some Christians seem like Atheists.)

Hi,

I am trying to be upset or scared by these.

I cannot, rather they tickle my tummy a little, but they are close to horrible, and have not crossed the line, to hurting God.

There is an important Truth in them, I say.

It is this:
Genesis, 1:28, does please God, when it is used and followed by Christians, and God Fearing people, who do not know, that they are God Fearing, but God does, in each and every one of them.

LOVE,
 
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<staff edit> (Thank-you. I think I know why.)(I thought that I could allow that, barely, as it was coming from atheists, who don't know any better yet. Further by being very angry at God, they pass the test of not being Luke Warm, towards God.) (Although hard to understand, God liking those who are very angry with Him, over Luke Warm Christians, by my Therapist friend George D******, his point was hate is love, in humans.

What they hate they love, but they do not normally know that. So, humans, even this one typing here, think hate is hate, until they are trained educated, and have enough experiences to find out that indeed this is so in humans.

The issue, is caring. Love to us is when someone we care about pleases us. Hate to us is when someone we care about does not please us.

So if that is Real, and if God knows that, then of course He Likes humans who love Him, but also those that say and act like they hate Him, as both are strong emotions and actions with Someone they care about.

Really, that is why, I let some things, not all things slide. I consider the person. The nice thing about some atheists, is they are so honest, they make some Christians seem like Atheists.)

Hi,

I am trying to be upset or scared by these.

I cannot, rather they tickle my tummy a little, but they are close to horrible, and have not crossed the line, to hurting God.

There is an important Truth in them, I say.

It is this:
Genesis, 1:28, does please God, when it is used and followed by Christians, and God Fearing people, who do not know, that they are God Fearing, but God does, in each and every one of them.

LOVE,

Can you explain how your average atheist can be mad at a God that don't believe exists?
 
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That's pretty much what creationists say, but they're wrong. What matters is what's true. A Christian should never be afraid of the truth.

A lot of Christians are not afraid of well evidenced reality, it all just depends what brand of Christianity they subscribe to.
 
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A lot of Christians are not afraid of well evidenced reality, it all just depends what brand of Christianity they subscribe to.
Walking by faith vs walking by sight?
 
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What do you mean by "sight"?
Subordinating special revelation (the Bible) to general revelation (the heavens).

QV Psalm 19
 
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Speaking of telling God what He can do ... that verse you quoted is not what Paul wrote.

Let's correct it, shall we?

You cited a modern revision. Mine's earlier than yours.
 
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