It doesn't matter "in the beginning". Our bodies have things like pain receptors, we have emotions, these things were not surprises. Why would we have pain receptors created within us? For fun?
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It doesn't matter "in the beginning". Our bodies have things like pain receptors, we have emotions, these things were not surprises. Why would we have pain receptors created within us? For fun?
Whereas I think it's about the least sensible thing. It puts Him in the category of Greek gods who became flesh to do things. I don't see that as necessary, desirable, or anything of the like.
Let me put it this way: You are not all-knowing. You are not the creator of the Universe. You cannot compare yourself to Him and decide His desires are yours.
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Just a certain group of Kaballists view on God after reading the Tanakh I suppose. The main idea in Kaballah anyways is that we all have shards of the divine in us and when we live and then die and go back to the divine source (God) we help God self realize and learn (more to it then that, but that's a basic idea).
One just has to read the Bible to see a record of God's gradual transformation from the angry and punitive Yahweh of the Old Testament to the loving and compassionate Abba (or Father) of the Gospels. An evolution of his personality through experiencing his creation.
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For clarity's sake, are you referring to the living God, God Most High, of the Bible?
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Yes, as if it were necessary I noted at the start of the other post that I was not all-knowing. So we can't say anything about God at all unless we are Him? Are we not in some sense made "in His image"? When God speaks of his love for Israel are we to make nothing of it since we can't know that His "love" is anything remotely like our human "love"?
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No, I don't mean that at all, but that you wish to become a lower creature to understand it doesn't mean He has to do the same. That's all I mean.
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Thank you for the clarity.
What you posted is not related to the God of the Bible.
That's why i asked for clarity.
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In the beginning it was not so.
It is true that, because of the pivotal event, that God states that He made ALL things, including what generated into evil by choosing to sin, even as there was nothing to tempt this being to sin. Yet this being did. Consequently, even that evil that was generated, God will use on the day of judgement for He is righteous and holy.
Something pivotal happened. Can you share what that pivotal event was?
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You mean when Adam went against HaShem? Ok, sure, that enacted something, but HaShem STILL created it all.
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I don't know what He was doing before all that, maybe He had other worlds or something. It isn't in the text of the Tanach. Kind of a meaningless question since time came into being only with the Universe. Eternity is timeless.
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By "He", do you mean the living God?
Previous to Adam sinning, there was an event that shook all of heaven. It was the antithesis to all that God created that God Himself called "very good".
What changed it?
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