Negative Scientists Fear Aliens and Want us to evacuate Earth

[dad]

You don't read a lot of Paul... that man was constantly at war with flesh... but if course he had his own issues...

Being at war with flesh is no more about not having sex than not eating.

 

[dad]

Jesus will return ONLY After the tribulation.
Matthew 24:29-31

You cannot back up with Scripture the claim that Jesus will come twice.

This have all to do with it .The "Aliens" that Hawking fears are in reality the fallen angels and their master (Lucifer)...the same that will be cast out of Heaven mentioned in Revelation 12:7-9. That is the part that Hawking and most of Humanity is not aware.

The real "stars wars".

Revelation 12

7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the EARTH, and his angels were cast out with him.

So yes the devil and his angels will be cast to earth. Yes Jesus comes after the tribulation as well as before when He takes us away with Him.

 

[dad]

Can you show us where in 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 it is mentionned that we (the believers) still alive will go to Heaven with Jesus after that we will meet Jesus in the air unto His unique coming yet to come ?Jesus will come TO LIVE ON the EARTH not to return to Heaven. Have you lost your capacity to understand God's words because of your belief in the falsehood Pre Tribulation Rapture of the Church to Heaven man made doctrine ?

1 Thessalonians 4:15-17King James Version (KJV)

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. ****

****The believers will be forever with Jesus when Jesus will come on the Earth to establish His Kingdom AFTER the Tribulation.

Cultish blather aside, do you think the science dudes areright wanting to evaluate?

 

[Riberra]

So yes the devil and his angels will be cast to earth. Yes Jesus comes after the tribulation as well as before when He takes us away with Him.

as well AS BEFORE when He takes us away with Him.

Why are you still unable to PROVE with the Bible that Jesus will come BEFORE the Tribulation to take us away with Him ?

I defy you or AV1611VET to find a Bible Verse saying that Jesus will come BEFORE the Tribulation to take us away with Him to Heaven .

The only thing that you have showed so far is a wishful thinking ...which is as delusional than Hawking desire to quit the Earth !

 

[TLK Valentine]

Being at war with flesh is no more about not having sex than not eating.

You haven't read any Paul, have you?

 

[dad]

as well AS BEFORE when He takes us away with Him.

Why are you still unable to PROVE with the Bible that Jesus will come BEFORE the Tribulation to take us away with Him ?

I defy you or AV1611VET to find a Bible Verse saying that Jesus will come BEFORE the Tribulation to take us away with Him to Heaven .

The only thing that you have showed so far is a wishful thinking ...which is as delusional than Hawking desire to quit the Earth !

This is not the place to straighten you out.

 

[dad]

You haven't read any Paul, have you?

Yes, great guy. He was a man not afraid of aliens, and not cowering and begging to evacuate the planet.

 

[AV1611VET]

as well AS BEFORE when He takes us away with Him.

Why are you still unable to PROVE with the Bible that Jesus will come BEFORE the Tribulation to take us away with Him ?

I defy you or AV1611VET to find a Bible Verse saying that Jesus will come BEFORE the Tribulation to take us away with Him to Heaven .

The only thing that you have showed so far is a wishful thinking ...which is as delusional than Hawking desire to quit the Earth !

Zephaniah 1:15 That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,

1 Thessalonians 5:5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

 

[dad]

as well AS BEFORE when He takes us away with Him.

Why are you still unable to PROVE with the Bible that Jesus will come BEFORE the Tribulation to take us away with Him ?

I defy you or AV1611VET to find a Bible Verse saying that Jesus will come BEFORE the Tribulation to take us away with Him to Heaven .

The only thing that you have showed so far is a wishful thinking ...which is as delusional than Hawking desire to quit the Earth !

Show me a verse we twiddle our thumbs in a cloud rather than go to the place He prepared!

 

[Riberra]

Zephaniah 1:15 That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,

1 Thessalonians 5:5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

Sorry AV1611VET, but there is no mention of a removal to Heaven before the Tribulation in these verses.

Zephaniah 1:15 is about when the lord Jesus will come on the Earth and destroy the unbelievers.

1 Thessalonians 5:5 we children of the light (believers in Christ)don't have to fear that day.

 

[Riberra]

Show me a verse we twiddle our thumbs in a cloud rather than go to the place He prepared!

Your capacity to interpret God's words is very weak.

1 Thessalonians 4:15-17
Jesus will descend from Heaven to establish His kingdom on the Earth.That is the reason why Jesus will come.
We (believers) will for ever be with Jesus to live in His Kingdom HERE ON THE EARTH.

1 Thessalonians 4:15-17King James Version (KJV)

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

 

[AV1611VET]

Sorry AV1611VET, but there is no mention of a removal to Heaven before the Tribulation in these verses.

Zephaniah 1:15 is about when the lord Jesus will come on the Earth and destroy the unbelievers.

Sorry Riberra, but there is no mention of 'the lord Jesus' in this verse.

(See how this game can go?)

 

[Riberra]

Sorry Riberra, but there is no mention of 'the lord Jesus' in this verse.

(See how this game can go?)

Read some verses before and after Zephaniah 1:15 you will see that the subject is about the Day of Wrath and Terror of the Lord....The Day of the Lord .

If the Day of the Lord mentionned is not about our Lord Jesus returning on Earth with wrath against the unbelievers,then what is it ?

 

[AV1611VET]

If the Day of the Lord mentionned is not about our Lord Jesus returning on Earth with wrath against the unbelievers,then what is it ?

The tribulation period.

 

[Riberra]

The tribulation period.

You need to revise your notions .
The tribulation period will be a TRIAL for all the Humans living on Earth in that time -when it will begin- without exception.

Nobody will be taken out of the Earth to Heaven to avoid it.

On the other hand,

The Day when the Lord will come in WRATH (Zephaniah 1:15) to destroy the unbelievers (all those that will take the mark) will happen only unto the coming of Jesus AFTER the Tribulation as mentioned in Matthew 24:29-31 and Revelation 19:11-21



Zephaniah 1:15 That day is a day of WRATH, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,


Revelation 19:15
15 And out of his mouth proceedeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness of the WRATH of God, the Almighty.

16 And he hath on his garment and on his thigh a name written, KINGS OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the birds that fly in mid heaven, Come [and] be gathered together unto the great supper of God; 18 that ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses and of them that sit thereon, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, and small and great.
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat upon the horse, and against his army.
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought the signs in his sight, wherewith he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast and them that worshipped his image: they two were cast alive into the lake of fire that burneth with brimstone:
21 and the rest were killed with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, [even the sword] which came forth out of his mouth: and all the birds were filled with their flesh.

 

[Rick Otto]

You don't read a lot of Paul... that man was constantly at war with flesh... but if course he had his own issues...

I read an obscure article somewhere I'm sure could be googled, by an RC priest who theorized Paul had latent homosexual tendencies. Maybe some protestants have tried to float that same theory too, I don't know. I have looked at some pretty harsh reviews of Paul. I think this is great, we try to sort this out. Some people seem to get carried away sometimes, but this thread has provoked thought for me, is my point, not to jab at Catholics.
They do take a lot of cheap shots sometimes.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I read an obscure article somewhere I'm sure could be googled, by an RC priest who theorized Paul had latent homosexual tendencies. Maybe some protestants have tried to float that same theory too, I don't know. I have looked at some pretty harsh reviews of Paul. I think this is great, we try to sort this out. Some people seem to get carried away sometimes, but this thread has provoked thought for me, is my point, not to jab at Catholics.
They do take a lot of cheap shots sometimes.

I've heard the theory that Paul was gay as well... I'm not sure about it, but the arguments from the text are... interesting, to say the least.

 

[Oafman]

I've heard the theory that Paul was gay as well

He was rather well dressed, for the age:

 

[TLK Valentine]

He was rather well dressed, for the age:

Faaaaabulous!

 

[dad]

Your capacity to interpret God's words is very weak.

1 Thessalonians 4:15-17
Jesus will descend from Heaven to establish His kingdom on the Earth.That is the reason why Jesus will come.
We (believers) will for ever be with Jesus to live in His Kingdom HERE ON THE EARTH.

1 Thessalonians 4:15-17King James Version (KJV)

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

I specialize in things above interpretation actually.

So what have you done that yiu feel you must get the wrath of God? We are not appointed to wrath, and the final years are the wrath of God. Gong to you.