Negative Scientists Fear Aliens and Want us to evacuate Earth

[dad]

Now that's a guess.

Me, I'll play the odds.



Who said I want to evacuate the planet?

Who said you are like Hawkings or other scientists? Point is..they do. Fearmongering quackery.

 

[dad]

Correct me if i am wrong ,but the GLORIOUS appearing of Jesus will happen AFTER the Tribulation.
As mentioned by Jesus Himself in Matthew 24:29-31
29 But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and GREAT GLORY.
31 And he shall send forth his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Won't we see Him when He comes in the clouds to rapture us?

 

[dad]

Evacuate the planet is exactly what you hope and believe ...that is the teaching of the pre-tribulation rapture doctrine.

Think about it !

Not mankind....believers and then only temporarily.

 

[dad]

Well, I won't say this is below average in terms of explanations you've given for your statements...

How can one explain the clueless chirping of frightened men of science that are freaking out wanting to evacuate the planet??

 

[Riberra]

Won't we see Him when He comes in the clouds to rapture us?

We will not go higher than the clouds to meet Jesus,when Jesus will come in Glory After the Tribulation.
Matthew 24:29-31
29 But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send forth his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

 

[The Cadet]

Ah, the ol' post-trib, pre-trib debate.

 

[Riberra]

Ah, the ol' post-trib, pre-trib debate.

The sad part is that Dad talk about Hawkings folly of saying that we must escape the earth for fear of the aliens (fallen angels)
While that the pre-tribulation rapture doctrine tell them the same thing...that they will escape the Earth before that Satan and his falling angels are cast out of Heaven.

-However there is no mention of a rapture/caught up to Heaven before or after the Tribulation mentioned anywhere in the Bible.
The only thing teached in the Bible is a caught up of the Believers in Christ to meet Jesus in the clouds UNTO Jesus coming.

 

[dad]

We will not go higher than the clouds to meet Jesus,when Jesus will come in Glory After the Tribulation.

What strange story is this? Even regular believers NOW go higher than clouds when we die. At the rapture we meet in the clouds, that doesn't mean we stay there because we go where He is. The visions of Revelation had to do with heaven, and that is not in the clouds here.

Matthew 24:29-31
29 But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

No doubt that we will see Jesus when He comes for us, and the folks here when He returns to earth later will also see Him.

31 And he shall send forth his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Yes He will gather us from earth here where we are. Not to ditsy around in the clouds during the tribulation though.

 

[Haasrecht]

I don't see how the aliens is relevant to . . . anything, really. Someone can be theologically sound and still think the odds are astronomically (heh) low that there is not extraterrestrial life.

 

[dad]

The sad part is that Dad talk about Hawkings folly of saying that we must escape the earth for fear of the aliens.
While that the pre-tribulation rapture doctrine tell them the same thing...that they will escape the Earth before that Satan and his falling angels are cast out of Heaven.

Being caught up and saved by Jesus is not anything like trying to save ourselves by leaving earth! How foolish.

-However there is no mention of a rapture/caught up to Heaven before or after the Tribulation mentioned anywhere in the Bible.

So? Who says the rapture is after the tribulation?

The only thing teached in the Bible is a caught up of the Believers in Christ to meet Jesus in the clouds UNTO Jesus coming.

He comes twice once to get us and later to take over and return to earth.

That has zero to do with the freaky fearful fantasies of physicists.

 

[dad]

I don't see how the aliens is relevant to . . . anything, really. Someone can be theologically sound and still think the odds are astronomically (heh) low that there is not extraterrestrial life.

The relevance of the alien boogy men feared by great scientists of the world, is that it shows they truly are clueless and not of God.

 

[Haasrecht]

The relevance of the alien boogy men feared by great scientists of the world, is that it shows they truly are clueless and not of God.

How does admitting there is likely extraterrestrial life of some sort imply that someone is not of God?

 

[Riberra]

What strange story is this? Even regular believers NOW go higher than clouds when we die.

When we DIE the SOULS of the believers go to Heaven.Can you show us a scripture saying that you will go directly to Heaven while that you are STILL ALIVE ?

At the rapture we meet in the clouds, that doesn't mean we stay there because we go where He is. The visions of Revelation had to do with heaven, and that is not in the clouds here.

Show us in the Book of Revelation a verse saying that people are raptured to Heaven while they are still alive.The Book of Revelation talk about SOULS in Heaven see Revelation 6 .

 

[dad]

How does admitting there is likely extraterrestrial life of some sort imply that someone is not of God?

Claiming we need to evacuate God's earth in fear rather than repent and trust Jesus is simply not of God.

 

[Riberra]

Being caught up and saved by Jesus is not anything like trying to save ourselves by leaving earth! How foolish.
So? Who says the rapture is after the tribulation?

He comes twice once to get us and later to take over and return to earth.

Jesus Himself say that He will come only one more time -immediately AFTER the Tribulation of those days-....don't you believe Him ?When you say that He will come twice you denied what Jesus said Himself.

Matthew 24:29-31

 

[dad]

When we DIE the SOULS of the believers go to Heaven.Can you show us a scripture saying that you will go directly to Heaven while that you are STILL ALIVE ?

We go into the air to meet Him while alive. We that are alive will do that. Then we go to heaven with Him.

Why try to turn a thread exposing the fearmongers of science today into some cult like religious nonsense thread?

 

[dad]

Jesus Himself say that He will come only one more time -immediately AFTER the Tribulation of those days-....don't you believe Him ?When you say that He will come twice you denied what Jesus said Himself.

Matthew 24:29-31

You are confused. Try not to share that.

 

[Haasrecht]

Claiming we need to evacuate God's earth in fear rather than repent and trust Jesus is simply not of God.

How is this an either/or situation? One could easily think it wise that we find a way off the planet while simultaneously trusting in God.

 

[dad]

Jesus Himself say that He will come only one more time -immediately AFTER the Tribulation of those days-....don't you believe Him ?When you say that He will come twice you denied what Jesus said Himself.

Matthew 24:29-31

The verses you cite specifically mention it is after the tribulation.

 

[The Cadet]

Hey @dad @Riberra sorry to interrupt you guys, but would you consider the order of the coming of jesus during the tribulation an important factor of Christian doctrine?