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Here's my problem, I believe in evolution, and it brings up doubts especially in the OT...

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I've mentioned before evolutionism isn't a fact. For you to suggest it is would be an error on your part.

There is nothing that would cause the information in DNA code to increase to what we see today. Codes require a programmer.
You seem to be conflating the fact of evolution with the theory of evolution. The evidence supporting the theory of evolution more than shows that it is a fact.

And of course there are processes that allow DNA to change so that evolution can occur. I am positive that this has been explained to you. The fact that you won't let yourself understand is not evidence against the theory.
 
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I've mentioned before evolutionism isn't a fact. For you to suggest it is would be an error on your part.

There is nothing that would cause the information in DNA code to increase to what we see today. Codes require a programmer.

Complete bull-feces. What do you mean with 'increase'? Evolution is a fact, there is no doubt about that any more.
 
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I've mentioned before evolutionism isn't a fact.

Evolution is both a theory and a fact, just as gravity is both a theory and a fact.

"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts do not go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's, but apples did not suspend themselves in mid-air, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from apelike ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other, yet to be discovered."--Stephen Jay Gould, "Evolution as Theory and Fact"
http://www.stephenjaygould.org/library/gould_fact-and-theory.html

There is nothing that would cause the information in DNA code to increase to what we see today. Codes require a programmer.

That is a bare assertion. You have never backed it with evidence.
 
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Then explain how the information in the DNA code increases.

Explain how information is measured.

From what I have seen, creationists like yourself can never measure information. You can't even define it in a meaningful way. For example, what is the information content of this DNA sequence:

CAAGTTAAACTGCTGGGGAACCGCGTTTCCACGACCGGTGCACGATTTAATTTCGCCGACGTGACGACATTCCTGCTAATGCCTCACCCGCCGGACCCCTCTCGTGATGGGGTAGCTGGACATGTCCTTGTGAGATATAACAAGAGCCTGCCTGTTTAATGATCTCACGGCGAAAGTCGGGGGGACAGCAGCGGCTGCAGACATTATACCGCAACAACACTAAGGTGAGATAACTCCGTAGTTGACTACGCATTCCTCTAGACCTTACTTGACCGGATACAGTGACTTTGACACGTTTGT
 
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Are you saying a new trait doesn't require an increase of information?
You have not defined what you mean by "information". You seem to know what a trait is. And we can explain how those are added. By the way, any reasonable definition of "information" will allow it to be increased through the evolutionary process. This is a prediction, but I have not seen a creationist that could both come up with a reasonable definition of information and show that known processes would not increase it.
 
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No its not.

AAEAAQAAAAAAAANzAAAAJDk2MTE2Y2VkLTc1YzctNDVkOS04NjkzLWM0YmI4NzM4MzcwMQ.jpg
 
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Are you saying a new trait doesn't require an increase of information?

Since you can't measure information, or even define information, how are we to tell? As I asked before . . .

What is the information content of this DNA sequence:

CAAGTTAAACTGCTGGGGAACCGCGTTTCCACGACCGGTGCACGATTTAATTTCGCCGACGTGACGACATTCCTGCTAATGCCTCACCCGCCGGACCCCTCTCGTGATGGGGTAGCTGGACATGTCCTTGTGAGATATAACAAGAGCCTGCCTGTTTAATGATCTCACGGCGAAAGTCGGGGGGACAGCAGCGGCTGCAGACATTATACCGCAACAACACTAAGGTGAGATAACTCCGTAGTTGACTACGCATTCCTCTAGACCTTACTTGACCGGATACAGTGACTTTGACACGTTTGT

More importantly, which mutations at which bases will increase or decrease that information content?
 
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Since you can't measure information, or even define information, how are we to tell? As I asked before . . .

What is the information content of this DNA sequence:

CAAGTTAAACTGCTGGGGAACCGCGTTTCCACGACCGGTGCACGATTTAATTTCGCCGACGTGACGACATTCCTGCTAATGCCTCACCCGCCGGACCCCTCTCGTGATGGGGTAGCTGGACATGTCCTTGTGAGATATAACAAGAGCCTGCCTGTTTAATGATCTCACGGCGAAAGTCGGGGGGACAGCAGCGGCTGCAGACATTATACCGCAACAACACTAAGGTGAGATAACTCCGTAGTTGACTACGCATTCCTCTAGACCTTACTTGACCGGATACAGTGACTTTGACACGTTTGT

More importantly, which mutations at which bases will increase or decrease that information content?
Once again I ask "Are you saying a new trait doesn't require an increase of information?"
 
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Once again I ask "Are you saying a new trait doesn't require an increase of information?"

Until you define what information is and how to measure it, I can't answer your question. "Information" is something you invented, so you need to define it. I will ask again.

What is the information content of this DNA sequence:

CAAGTTAAACTGCTGGGGAACCGCGTTTCCACGACCGGTGCACGATTTAATTTCGCCGACGTGACGACATTCCTGCTAATGCCTCACCCGCCGGACCCCTCTCGTGATGGGGTAGCTGGACATGTCCTTGTGAGATATAACAAGAGCCTGCCTGTTTAATGATCTCACGGCGAAAGTCGGGGGGACAGCAGCGGCTGCAGACATTATACCGCAACAACACTAAGGTGAGATAACTCCGTAGTTGACTACGCATTCCTCTAGACCTTACTTGACCGGATACAGTGACTTTGACACGTTTGT

More importantly, which mutations at which bases will increase or decrease that information content?
 
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Until you define what information is and how to measure it, I can't answer your question. "Information" is something you invented, so you need to define it. I will ask again.

What is the information content of this DNA sequence:

CAAGTTAAACTGCTGGGGAACCGCGTTTCCACGACCGGTGCACGATTTAATTTCGCCGACGTGACGACATTCCTGCTAATGCCTCACCCGCCGGACCCCTCTCGTGATGGGGTAGCTGGACATGTCCTTGTGAGATATAACAAGAGCCTGCCTGTTTAATGATCTCACGGCGAAAGTCGGGGGGACAGCAGCGGCTGCAGACATTATACCGCAACAACACTAAGGTGAGATAACTCCGTAGTTGACTACGCATTCCTCTAGACCTTACTTGACCGGATACAGTGACTTTGACACGTTTGT

More importantly, which mutations at which bases will increase or decrease that information content?
Thr real answer? None. A random blind process can't increase the information to the point a new trait can be coded for.

Can't happen.
 
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Thr real answer? None. A random blind process can't increase the information to the point a new trait can be coded for.

Still waiting for an answer.

What is the information content of this DNA sequence:

CAAGTTAAACTGCTGGGGAACCGCGTTTCCACGACCGGTGCACGATTTAATTTCGCCGACGTGACGACATTCCTGCTAATGCCTCACCCGCCGGACCCCTCTCGTGATGGGGTAGCTGGACATGTCCTTGTGAGATATAACAAGAGCCTGCCTGTTTAATGATCTCACGGCGAAAGTCGGGGGGACAGCAGCGGCTGCAGACATTATACCGCAACAACACTAAGGTGAGATAACTCCGTAGTTGACTACGCATTCCTCTAGACCTTACTTGACCGGATACAGTGACTTTGACACGTTTGT

More importantly, which mutations at which bases will increase or decrease that information content?

If you can't answer these questions, then your assertions are unsupported.
 
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