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With all of the recent news about terrorism lately and what's been going on, how do I help calm family that is showing fear? I know we should be observant, but we shouldn't live in fear. It's been talk of them buying guns for self defence. Do we fully trust in God's protection or do we have to have means of defending ourselves too? I keep telling them to trust in God's protection, but I know that Christians do die from this action. I mean going out in public and trusting that God will protect...is that like saying, oh I don't have to work because God will provide or something similar to that? I don't worry, but I do observe my surroundings, and would not put myself in a place that I didn't feel comfortable...but that goes for anyone trying to hurt me or others. What do you think?
 

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The primary purpose of terrorism is making people fearful in their daily life. People who live in less populated or away from landmark places feel a bit more secured, but it's always there in the back of one's mind when something goes on that comes off as suspicious regardless.

Nevertheless, society gets on with their lives. I don't think this is about a patriotic or unified spirit, which is more poetry in my opinion, so much as it is simply the natural response of an apex society. Terrorists could never really break that- not to offend the tragedies of the attacks from 9/11 to Paris, but radicals are so abysmally narcissistic to a point that these things rub off as being more than what they are. In reality, they haven't done anything except hand-toss a bullet into a brick wall as far as these attacks go.

The real weapon isn't their terrorism, it's their multiplying in Christian society. This is why it's not a good idea to be bringing in hundreds of thousands of Muslims- they are programmable people for an Islamist state. This is exactly the cause of the Paris attack- it's not some coincidence that France has an extreme population of Muslims.

So let's get to the brass tacks- if you follow the much overblown 'Christian way', which is really an invention of the past several decades to harbor faulty pacifism, then you're opening the doors for destruction. It isn't God bombing ISIS right now, it is us. Our protection is what God gave us for protection. I think that many Christians need to embrace the reality of having to make tough calls and pertain to a greater good rather then consistently remaining in a paradigm of putting band-aids on gaping wounds.
 
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The primary purpose of terrorism is making people fearful in their daily life. People who live in less populated or away from landmark places feel a bit more secured, but it's always there in the back of one's mind when something goes on that comes off as suspicious regardless.

Nevertheless, society gets on with their lives. I don't think this is about a patriotic or unified spirit, which is more poetry in my opinion, so much as it is simply the natural response of an apex society. Terrorists could never really break that- not to offend the tragedies of the attacks from 9/11 to Paris, but radicals are so abysmally narcissistic to a point that these things rub off as being more than what they are. In reality, they haven't done anything except hand-toss a bullet into a brick wall as far as these attacks go.

The real weapon isn't their terrorism, it's their multiplying in Christian society. This is why it's not a good idea to be bringing in hundreds of thousands of Muslims- they are programmable people for an Islamist state. This is exactly the cause of the Paris attack- it's not some coincidence that France has an extreme population of Muslims.

So let's get to the brass tacks- if you follow the much overblown 'Christian way', which is really an invention of the past several decades to harbor faulty pacifism, then you're opening the doors for destruction. It isn't God bombing ISIS right now, it is us. Our protection is what God gave us for protection. I think that many Christians need to embrace the reality of having to make tough calls and pertain to a greater good rather then consistently remaining in a paradigm of putting band-aids on gaping wounds.
The sad truth is that while most Muslims are not terrorists, most terrorists are Muslims.
Bringing in large numbers of Muslims will increase the risk of terrorist action in a country, often coming from the radicalization of children. Even so, the Christian response must always be compassionate and genuine refugees should be welcomed.
 
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The sad truth is that while most Muslims are not terrorists, most terrorists are Muslims.
Bringing in large numbers of Muslims will increase the risk of terrorist action in a country, often coming from the radicalization of children. Even so, the Christian response must always be compassionate and genuine refugees should be welcomed.

I have been really struggling with this. I see in the bible that we are to love the 'alien in our midst'.. that is very clear and I believe this. I do trust that God is ordering my steps and will either protect or allow us to go to heaven... the timing of that is in His hands.
My problem is with my attitude toward Muslims (not that I know any). I don't hate them but I do confess to hating Islam because I consider it an evil religion where 'kill the Jew and Christian' are commanded in their 'holy book'. My daughter has had friends that are converted from Islam and they are in hiding from their families who have to kill them. I read about sleepers and how do we know which person is a sleeper waiting for orders? I would feel easier if all the 'moderate' Muslims would stand up with a loud voice and protest all the violence.
But ... as a Christian I struggle because we are to love them as people yet I have to fight the distrust.
I am first and foremost a citizen of Heaven so His rules of loving the alien have to be followed no matter what the result is to my earthly country.
 
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I have been really struggling with this. I see in the bible that we are to love the 'alien in our midst'.. that is very clear and I believe this. I do trust that God is ordering my steps and will either protect or allow us to go to heaven... the timing of that is in His hands.
My problem is with my attitude toward Muslims (not that I know any). I don't hate them but I do confess to hating Islam because I consider it an evil religion where 'kill the Jew and Christian' are commanded in their 'holy book'. My daughter has had friends that are converted from Islam and they are in hiding from their families who have to kill them. I read about sleepers and how do we know which person is a sleeper waiting for orders? I would feel easier if all the 'moderate' Muslims would stand up with a loud voice and protest all the violence.
But ... as a Christian I struggle because we are to love them as people yet I have to fight the distrust.
I am first and foremost a citizen of Heaven so His rules of loving the alien have to be followed no matter what the result is to my earthly country.
That is a very honest response.
Here in Australia a number of Muslim leaders have strongly condemned the terrorist violence. However they have unfortunately tried to explain it in terms of racism, Islamophobia, foreign policies and military intervention.
Moderate Islam is not a threat to Western countries but radical Islam certainly is.
It must be difficult for peace loving Muslims living in the West who have to cope with the hatred caused by the actions of Islamic extremists.
If you get a chance, next time you see someone in a head covering, smile or say hello. It is only a small gesture but could mean a lot to them.
 
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That is a very honest response.
Here in Australia a number of Muslim leaders have strongly condemned the terrorist violence. However they have unfortunately tried to explain it in terms of racism, Islamophobia, foreign policies and military intervention.
Moderate Islam is not a threat to Western countries but radical Islam certainly is.
It must be difficult for peace loving Muslims living in the West who have to cope with the hatred caused by the actions of Islamic extremists.
If you get a chance, next time you see someone in a head covering, smile or say hello. It is only a small gesture but could mean a lot to them.
That is a good idea and if there were any in my town I would do that. I live in a tiny town with just Methodists and Baptists lol :)
 
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That is a good idea and if there were any in my town I would do that. I live in a tiny town with just Methodists and Baptists lol :)
Oh I see. I accompanied my grandchildren to the zoo recently and a group of Muslim school children were there also. I was impressed with their behaviour and couldn't help smile at how cute the little girls looked.
 
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