ABC poll shows why Ben Carson must be destroyed

[William67]

Yeah, I'm sure being a community organizer is a really easy job.

Compared to being surgeon, being a community cheerleader is about as difficult as selling doughnuts to fat cops.

 

[AceHero]

Yeah, I'm sure being a community organizer is a really easy job.

Compared to being surgeon, being a community cheerleader is about as difficult as selling doughnuts to fat cops.

The experience gained with being a community organizer is far more relevant to running a country than being a neurosurgeon is:

Community organizing is a process where people who live in proximity to each other come together into an organization that acts in their shared self-interest. Unlike those who promote more-consensual community building, community organizers generally assume that social change necessarily involves conflict and social struggle in order to generate collective power for the powerless. A core goal of community organizing is to generate durable power for an organization representing the community, allowing it to influence key decision-makers on a range of issues over time. In the ideal, for example, this can get community organizing groups a place at the table before important decisions are made. Community organizers work with and develop new local leaders, facilitating coalitions and assisting in the development of campaigns.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_organizing

 

[William67]

The experience gained with being a community organizer is far more relevant to running a country than being a neurosurgeon is:

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_organizing

Its absolutely hilarious, and rather disgusting, that you had the nerve to post that. Instead of "facilitating coalitions", which by its very definition means bringing people together (even those of differing views), "King O" has instead chosen to rule by royal decrees and proclamations (executive orders). He has created a greater divide, politically, in the US than at any other time since the Civil War. That will be his true legacy. He has garnered such animosity and absolutely hatred of the US govt, the likes of which I have never seen before.

And while Ben Carson would not be my first choice, at this point I would vote for anyone other than a Democrat or a Socialist, which to be honest, has become pretty much synonymous. If nothing else, Carson has the ability to make quick, reasoned decisions. He has had to do that during surgery. While libs tend to govern by social polls.

Even my dog would better than Odummy or Hitlery. Much more intelligent, as well.

 

[JustOneWay]

Libs tend to govern by social polls ( will of the people) while cons tend to do what they personally think is best ( go it alone) ....

And somebody has the nerve to call obama king?

Talk about hilarious

 

[William67]

Libs tend to govern by social polls ( will of the people) while cons tend to do what they personally think is best ( go it alone) ....

And somebody has the nerve to call obama king?

Talk about hilarious

Social polls can be made to say anything and the results will vary daily, weekly. That is not the will of the people, that is a fickle public. Anyone who attempts to govern in that manner should be immediately removed from office. Conservatives govern by the law of the land, the Constitution.

Odumbo considers himself King. Don't forget, he and Eric Holder thought that as President, Odumbo had the right to order the deaths of American citizens without trial. Odumbo thought he could simply negate the 2nd Amendment with an executive order. Also, on several occasions Odumbo has attempted to bypass Congress, which is not only illegal but very unconstitutional, and force his will on the American people.

 

[JustOneWay]

“I’m not a king. My job as the head of the executive branch ultimately is to carry out the law,”

LOL. Looks like you are wrong....




http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/11/2...ration-executive-order-was-enrage-republicans

 

[William67]

“I’m not a king. My job as the head of the executive branch ultimately is to carry out the law,”

LOL. Looks like you are wrong....




http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/11/2...ration-executive-order-was-enrage-republicans

I'm not a Southerner. I'm a liberal. I was born on the planet Mars.

Wow, would you look at that. People can make all sorts of untrue statements.

 

[JustOneWay]

He disproved you, so instead of understanding he admits he is not a king, you double down and call him a liar. This speaks more about your integrity than his.

We all understand that calling him childish names is nothing more than goading.

 

[William67]

He disproved you, so instead of understanding he admits he is not a king, you double down and call him a liar. This speaks more about your integrity than his.

We all understand that calling him childish names is nothing more than goading.

Its not goading. His actions and words have contradicted the quote you posted. Just because you don't like the truth doesn't discredit the truth. While he claims to not be king, his record while in office proves that he thinks he has the power of a king.

 

[JustOneWay]

I see. Then as king why is he not suspending the election so he can rule for the rest of his life?

Because he does not have the power of a king, and this discussion has reached the end.

Don't worry, Obama will be gone soon and Clinton will take over.

 

[William67]

I see. Then as king why is he not suspending the election so he can rule for the rest of his life?

Because he does not have the power of a king, and this discussion has reached the end.

Don't worry, Obama will be gone soon and Clinton will take over.

The answer to that is very simple. If he attempted to seize power, there would be a war and the corpses of leftists would be stacked like cordwood in the streets and fields all across the US.

Clinton doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell of winning. Republicans could run a pet rock and still beat her. She is thoroughly hated by the majority of Americans.

The only one who stands a chance against Republicans is Bernie Sanders. To most Americans he is an unknown element. But, as soon as he wins the DNC primary, he will be thoroughly gutted because he is an avowed Socialist.

 

[JustOneWay]

Nice. if obama seizes power, the right will kill liberals. There is some first class fiction....

 

[ecco]

LOL, let's do a compare and contrast.

On one hand, a man with remarkable accomplishments benefiting mankind:

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On the other, a woman with no known accomplishments benefiting mankind:

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Choose wisely.

Unfortunately, for your viewpoint, brain surgery is not a qualification for running a Country. Fortunately, for the Country, Ben Carson has absolutely no chance of winning his party's nomination.

Ben Carson is a self-aggrandizing person as has already been seen.

 

[ecco]

Conservatives govern by the law of the land, the Constitution.

You mean the Constitution that says: The Congress shall have power...to declare war? A clause that Conservative Republican Presidents danced around multiple times:

Operation Desert Storm, the Afghanistan War of 2001 and the Iraq War of 2002.

And then there is the matter of funding: Your Conservative Republican President borrowed from China to pay for the war against Iraq.

 

[Dave-W]

As for being Secretary of State ... that was the consolation prize Obama offered for Bill Clinton's support. Even Hillary has been unable to list any accomplishments while she was Secretary of State.

How about Bengazi?

Or setting up her own private insecure email system? THAT was a violation of federal law. If I did that as a federal employee (and I do NOT work with classified information) I would be in prison right now.

 

[Dave-W]

“I’m not a king. My job as the head of the executive branch ultimately is to carry out the law,”

Carries about as much truth as "I am not a crook..."

 

[JustOneWay]

There is a big difference between somebody saying "I am not a crook..." to "I'm not a king"

The comparison you make fails because Obama cannot be the king, even if he said he was which he never said.

A crook can easily be a crook without anybody's help, whereas a king must be recognized as a king by the people.

The truth is Obama is not a king, and he admits the same.

 

[Dave-W]

Not the same at all. Hillary KNEW two days before hand that the attack was coming and intentionally left them without protection. i.e. she signed their death warrants.

Looking over the list of 13 terror attacks under Bush jr, there is no indication on any of them that the administration had any clue beforehand. Not anywhere near the same thing.

BTW - are you sure she and Bill were not behind the 1996 crash that killed Secretary of Commerce Ron Brown? Hillary had just gotten off of the same plane only a few hours before the fatal crash. It was ruled "navigational error." Some points to consider:

• Ron Brown was found with a .45-inch inwardly beveling circular hole in the top of his head, which resembled a gunshot wound. Despite this suspicious wound, the Air Force medical examiners decided not to order an autopsy.

• Normally in plane crash investigations there is a two step process. The Air Force first determines whether the crash was the result of an accident, hostile fire, sabotage, or mechanical failure. In Ron Brown's case, this determination (called a safety board) was skipped. Instead, the Air Force immediately proceeded to the second part of the investigation, where only accident and legal issues are considered.

• The Air Force reported that a navigation beacon had been stolen from the airport sometime before the crash. This led some to speculate that the pilot may have been intentionally drawn off course and into the mountainside by a spurious beacon.

• Three days after the the crash, Niko Jerkic -- the man who was responsible for maintaining the airport's navigational aids -- died by gunshot. This was ruled a suicide. Jerkic's untimely death meant that investigators did not have a chance to question him.

 

[bhsmte]

Sure, Dr Ben Carson doesn't have any real Political/Executive experience. But in the mind of many, that means very little. Because what we are seeing right now throughout the country is this trend in voters to want an outsider. And Dr Ben Carson is just that. Allot of people including myself has lost trust in politicians, and the desire for a none politician is much more favorable to some. And you have to admit, Dr Ben Carson is a very soft spoken and kind gentleman. And the old ladies like that. Lol....

It is true, people in general are fed up with politicians. Look at the favorable ratings for congress and the senate and it is clear, people are fed up.

With that said, it is understandable, that people like Trump and Carson have support (at least at this stage), because they are simply "different". Trump appeals to people, because he talks and feels like many average Americans do and they like that. Carson appeals to people, because he appears to be soft spoken and he isn't a career politician.

In Carson's case and being around physicians for over 20 years, he does strike me as your typical; specialty surgeon, who has been placed on a pedestal for most of his career and they start to believe it. The fact a guy who has his education, denies evolution is true, is scary. The fact a guy with his background, would make a statement that a supplement he took, cured his prostate cancer, is scary. The fact that he seems to have a very high opinion of himself, is bothersome.

 

[bhsmte]

It will be interesting how it all plays out in the end. We may all be shocked....

Always possible to be shocked.

In the end, I will make a prediction; Carson will not be a factor.