What is the positive evidence FOR creationism?

[DerelictJunction]

There is nothing wrong with variety in Creation. You want variety in your food right?

That's not really an answer to my questions.
So to get variety in Creation, God purposely made some animals with body plans that would make life more difficult than it is for other animal in the same environment. So much for "very good".

 

[mickiio]

That's not really an answer to my questions.
So to get variety in Creation, God purposely made some animals with body plans that would make life more difficult than it is for other animal in the same environment. So much for "very good".

Of course! Every animal, every person for that matter has a special purpose for their life.

 

[Loudmouth]

Of course! Every animal, every person for that matter has a special purpose for their life.

Again, that would be a claim. What we are asking for is positive evidence for creationism.

Do we need to explain what the difference is between a claim and evidence?

 

[DerelictJunction]

The Creation itself has a HUGE amount of evidence pointing to an intelligent organized Creator. "The Heavens declare the Glory of God". DNA structure in itself is it's own language. A painting is all the evidence you need for a painter.

We are specifically discussing the way that the variety of life was created on Earth, not whether a God performed that function or not.
Creationism and Evolution are two different ideas about how that variety occurred. One of them is a tested and well evidenced theory (Evolution) and the other is an assertion from an old book (Creationism).

Let's try to limit our discussion to the evidence for Creationism as per the OP.

 

[mickiio]

Don't you like to play with the dolphins? What about Jonah and the whale? I seriously doubt he would have survived for three days in a shark.

 

[Loudmouth]

Don't you like to play with the dolphins? What about Jonah and the whale? I seriously doubt he would have survived for three days in a shark.

Evidence?

 

[crjmurray]

Don't you like to play with the dolphins? What about Jonah and the whale? I seriously doubt he would have survived for three days in a shark.

I don't know about you guys but I think that settles it.

 

[DerelictJunction]

Don't you like to play with the dolphins? What about Jonah and the whale? I seriously doubt he would have survived for three days in a shark.

1. The Bible says it was a fish.
2. Why would a human have a better chance in a whale?
3. You have a penchant for limiting what your God can do. Could God not protect him in a shark?

 

[justlookinla]

Where did you show us evidence that any creature was created by a deity?

Show us the naturalistic mechanism, based on the scientific method, which created pine trees and humans.

 

[justlookinla]

Do food recipes fall into a nested hierarchy?

If the creator wanted them to.

 

[justlookinla]

1. The Bible says it was a fish.
2. Why would a human have a better chance in a whale?
3. You have a penchant for limiting what your God can do. Could God not protect him in a shark?

It's important to note that the Lord prepared a fish. It was most likely one of a kind.

 

[Loudmouth]

2. Why would a human have a better chance in a whale?

Haven't you seen the movie "Pinocchio"? Duh!

 

[DerelictJunction]

It's important to note that the Lord prepared a fish. It was most likely one of a kind.

That is not relevant to the discussion at hand. I assume your speculation was not meant to add to the scriptures. That would be problematic within your belief system.

 

[justlookinla]

That is not relevant to the discussion at hand. I assume your speculation was not meant to add to the scriptures. That would be problematic within your belief system.

It's relevant in that God was controlling the situation, including the 'fish'.

 

[DerelictJunction]

It's relevant in that God was controlling the situation, including the 'fish'.

I would have to agree that the story does indicate that. It is strange to me why mickiio thinks God couldn't have used a shark. Apparently her God is limited more than yours.

 

[justlookinla]

I would have to agree that the story does indicate that. It is strange to me why mickiio thinks God couldn't have used a shark. Apparently her God is limited more than yours.

God used what God wanted to use. It is what it is.

 

[mickiio]

It's important to note that the Lord prepared a fish. It was most likely one of a kind.

True or it could have been a whale.

1. The Bible says it was a fish.

The Hebrew, as throughout scripture, refers to no species in particular, simply saying "great fish" or "big fish" (whales are today classified as mammals and not fish, but no such distinction was made in antiquity).

2. Why would a human have a better chance in a whale?

Because it is a mammal and breathes instead of gills that force water through them to breath. In a whale there could have been air in there, where Jonah would have more then likely drowned in a fish.

3. You have a penchant for limiting what your God can do. Could God not protect him in a shark?

No I'm not. It could have been a shark, sure. Or maybe some other wild creature we don't know about. I am just favoring the logical choice.

 

[DerelictJunction]

God used what God wanted to use. It is what it is.

Way to miss the point.

 

[justlookinla]

True or it could have been a whale.

True.

The Hebrew, as throughout scripture, refers to no species in particular, simply saying "great fish" or "big fish" (whales are today classified as mammals and not fish, but no such distinction was made in antiquity). Because it is a mammal and breathes instead of gills that force water through them to breath. In a whale there could have been air in there, where Jonah would have more then likely drowned in a fish. No I'm not. It could have been a shark, sure. Or maybe some other wild creature we don't know about. I am just favoring the logical choice.

Whatever it was, Jonah was a changed man after the incident.

 

[DerelictJunction]

True or it could have been a whale.
The Hebrew, as throughout scripture, refers to no species in particular, simply saying "great fish" or "big fish" (whales are today classified as mammals and not fish, but no such distinction was made in antiquity).

So much for inspiration.

Because it is a mammal and breathes instead of gills that force water through them to breath. In a whale there could have been air in there, where Jonah would have more then likely drowned in a fish.

I think a God that can keep 3 guys from burning while in a furnace could keep Jonah from drowning. Gotta keep the story consistent.

No I'm not. It could have been a shark, sure. Or maybe some other wild creature we don't know about. I am just favoring the logical choice.

When has "the logical choice" ever been applicable to the God of the Bible?