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What is the defense for planned parenthood harvesting babay brains?

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So, I guess that you want the people who benefitted from the research done with the dead baby parts to die, hmm? You seem to relish the thought of taking the research away from them.

Well there do seem to be some people who only care about unborn babies, not any of the born.
 
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I don't feel like reading 12 pages, so I don't know if it was duly established that they aren't in fact selling them for profit, it's just to make up costs. But that's not much of a defense, since if a contract killer only charges his costs and not profit on top of that, that isn't a justification for his actions.

It was established that the charges involved only (partially) covered the additional expenses of delivering the material in medically useful condition.
 
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Humans want to achieve everything achievable no matter the monetary costs. (And consume as much entertainment and city culture as time ever "allows"):
It was established that the charges involved only (partially) covered the additional expenses of delivering the material in medically useful condition.
 
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Well there do seem to be some people who only care about unborn babies, not any of the born.

Murdering of unborn babies is not going to compensate for the sufferings going on in the world.

Why should they be sentenced to death, dying in such a horror of a brutal and savage way?

What have unborn babies done to instigate such atrocities against them?

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Well there do seem to be some people who only care about unborn babies, not any of the born.
I'd say many who care about the unborn do care about the born, it's important to make that distinction. Not believing in killing one human and harvesting him or her for medical benefit doesn't mean you don't care about another human who could potentially benefit from it. It's just that there are certain ethical lines you don't cross, even in the name of doing something good. The ends don't justify the means.
 
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Apparently not. The quote was interpreted very differently by you than by me?

My understanding of this quote is that to not speak up when evil occurs is the same as participating in the evil.

What was your interpretation of it?

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Speaking out should also be effectivly done which includes presenting a solution that others may work with you on.
Just saying something is not speaking to someone. It is speaking at them and that's the differance between using emotion and using logic. Emotion is your individual feeling towards something. They may or may not be felt by others. Reason is more broadly accepted and by far the better tactic when trying to reach out to others.
 
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Murdering of unborn babies is not going to compensate for the sufferings going on in the world.

Why should they be sentenced to death, dying in such a horror of a brutal and savage way?

What have unborn babies done to instigate such atrocities against them?

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Look, women aren't being herded into abortion clinics at gunpoint. They seek abortions of their own free will. You seem to blame abortion providers exclusively, but if there was no demand, they would have no business. I hope you are as fervent about women--and men--conscientiously using all forms of birth control. And having birth control easily available and affordable.
 
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Speaking out should also be effectivly done which includes presenting a solution that others may work with you on.
Just saying something is not speaking to someone. It is speaking at them and that's the differance between using emotion and using logic. Emotion is your individual feeling towards something. They may or may not be felt by others. Reason is more broadly accepted and by far the better tactic when trying to reach out to others.

That's what you get from the quote?
 
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Look, women aren't being herded into abortion clinics at gunpoint. They seek abortions of their own free will. You seem to blame abortion providers exclusively, but if there was no demand, they would have no business. I hope you are as fervent about women--and men--conscientiously using all forms of birth control. And having birth control easily available and affordable.

"business", eh?
 
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Look, women aren't being herded into abortion clinics at gunpoint. They seek abortions of their own free will. You seem to blame abortion providers exclusively, but if there was no demand, they would have no business.
Many have abusive boyfriends, husbands, or parents that strongarm them into it.
 
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perhaps there shouldn't be "remains" from the gitgo to decide "what to do with"
Unfortunately religious extremists have gutted sex education and contraceptive services in many areas, so those places have seen an increase in unwanted pregnancies. Restoring the funding in those areas would be a good place to start if one is interested in reducing the number of abortions, but as usual the far right is their own worst enemy here.

They aren't so much pro-life as they are pro-forced birth.

No. Do you? You seem to be going off a series of videos that have been debunked several times already. The videos did a good job appealing to your emotions though. You may be against abortion but I can't imagine you like being mislead or lied to. Which is exactly what happened.

Less than 3% of Planned Parenthood is abortions. Abortions are not federally funded unless the case is rape, incest or the mother's life is in danger.

What are your solutions? Instead of trying to appeal to emotion, offer some solutions.



Does a fertilized egg implant itself 100% of the time?

What was I? Is that a rhetorical question?
A fertilized egg with no conscious thought or feelings.
Where does all the meeting the demand for murdered babies body parts come from? Who supplies these "products"?

There's a HUGE demand. It's BIG BUSINESS. That's quite an incentive to keep up with the demand.

You'd think abortions would take up a bigger portion of their services if they were in the healthcare business just for abortions. Why would they offer any birth control alternatives? Shouldn't they just be making every girl who enters their offices get abortions?

The bottom line of the beginning of your life is that you were "you", a "fertilized egg" was you, a baby.

As people here have already explained, not all fertilized eggs result in pregnancies. In fact, many don't.
 
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Are you going to even comment on what I actually wrote?

Your comment about the fertilized eggs?

Not sure what your point is.

Nobody deliberately destroyed/murdered them, did they?
 
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Your comment about the fertilized eggs?

Not sure what your point is.

Nobody deliberately destroyed/murdered them, did they?

The pro-life side needs to stop arguing the problem with appeal to emotion words like these. Abortions are going to happen regardless if it's legal or not. What is a solution you can offer?

Mine is- Better sex education and access to affordable birth control.
 
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The pro-life side needs to stop arguing the problem with appeal to emotion words like these. Abortions are going to happen regardless if it's legal or not. What is a solution you can offer?

Mine is- Better sex education and access to affordable birth control.

What's wrong with life?

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Are you going to even comment on what I actually wrote?
Your comment about the fertilized eggs?

Not sure what your point is.

Nobody deliberately destroyed/murdered them, did they?

Since many fertilized eggs do not result in pregnancies, how can you call such things babies?

And in my last post I was more asking you how the so-called harvesting of fetal material for monetary gain was big business for Planned Parenthood if it's a minority of the percentage of the services they provide. You'd think they'd do nothing but abortions if it was so lucrative an industry.
 
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What's wrong with life?

You're not understanding the point I am making. Abortions will happen whether they are legal or not. In fact in 1965 (I may be off a year or two here) before Roe V Wade there were 867,000 illegal abortions. My solution is proper education and easily accessible birth control to reduce unwanted pregnancies and abortions.
 
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Since many fertilized eggs do not result in pregnancies, how can you call such things babies?

And in my last post I was more asking you how the so-called harvesting of fetal material for monetary gain was big business for Planned Parenthood if it's a minority of the percentage of the services they provide. You'd think they'd do nothing but abortions if it was so lucrative an industry.

Re: your first sentence: Is a fertilized egg living?

2nd sentence: you believe that?
 
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