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What is the defense for planned parenthood harvesting babay brains?

AHH who-stole-my-name

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Personally, I saw a video that a person said in the third person what was going on and then a picture of what might have been an aborted infant. It could have been anything including a premature birth and then a continuation of the same type of gotta crap that has been coming from these people and everyone who hates these peaople and what they do are convinced that it is going on because they want it to be so.


Now someone asks people to justify something that is more in others heads than is in reality, as far as proof is considered when the entire issue could be resolved to a large extent if poeople were given an unfettered option that wouldn't cost them and arm and a leg, or going through hurdles to get what they need.

If people want solutions to things, they need to compromise for them instead of demanding others compromise for you.
 
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Personally, I saw a video that a person said in the third person what was going on and then a picture of what might have been an aborted infant. It could have been anything including a premature birth

If you're talking about what I think you are, that photo was a mother's still born child. The photo was used without her permission. There is also footage of a fetus moving on an observation table. This is stock footage that again, we don't know the context of. Is it a miscarriage, a pre-mature birth? The videos accomplish what they set out to do....appeal to peoples emotions. But they are very misleading.
 
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If you're talking about what I think you are, that photo was a mother's still born child. The photo was used without her permission. There is also footage of a fetus moving on an observation table. This is stock footage that again, we don't know the context of. Is it a miscarriage, a pre-mature birth? The videos accomplish what they set out to do....appeal to peoples emotions. But they are very misleading.
Thank you sir. These kinds of stunt are what really angers me. This type of dishonesty should be criminal because it drives people to do and act unlike they ordinarily would.

If anyone dies because of this stuff I would prosecute them for being an accessory before the fact. I'm sure there is a law against such stuff and there are definatly wackjobs enough out there who would gladly kill someone for this.
 
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From what I understand they have admitted to selling baby parts for profit.

No, they've admitted to selling fetal tissue. Which serves a legitimate purpose for research. It is legal for them to do what they do. So, no defense is needed.
 
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perhaps there shouldn't be "remains" from the gitgo to decide "what to do with" which eerily sounds akin to a psychopathic murderer deciding how to dispose of a the "remains" of someone they just hacked to death, piece-by-piece.
Then why make that the topic when your ethical issue is something else?
 
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Whether you like it or not, however you want to define it, abortion is going to happen, and it's going to keep happening. Regardless of how much you insist on calling it "murder", whether or not it is murder, the end result is a bunch of body parts with real medical value that can be used to help actual living people. You objecting to the use of those body parts is kind of akin to saying that an organ donor who was murdered should not be allowed to donate their kidneys.

So you would be okay if someone came and murdered you right now, and then donated your organs to science?
 
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So you would be okay if someone came and murdered you right now, and then donated your organs to science?
No - but I wouldn´t bring up organ donation from murdered people as a problem when actually I have a problem with murder.
 
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Strathos said: ↑
So you would be okay if someone came and murdered you right now, and then donated your organs to science?

No - but I wouldn´t bring up organ donation from murdered people as a problem when actually I have a problem with murder.

It gets confusing, doesn't it?
 
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So you would be okay if someone came and murdered you right now, and then donated your organs to science?

Let's be perfectly clear here - I wouldn't have a problem with the donation. I'm dead, I'm a rotting corpse, my opinion is pretty irrelevant. In this hypothetical, however, I'd have all kinds of problems with the "murdered you" part.

It gets confusing, doesn't it?
...It's really not that complicated.
 
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Let's be perfectly clear here - I wouldn't have a problem with the donation. I'm dead, I'm a rotting corpse, my opinion is pretty irrelevant. In this hypothetical, however, I'd have all kinds of problems with the "murdered you" part.

What does that mean?
 
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It gets confusing, doesn't it?
Well, to me it´s pretty clear.
Autumnleaf has a problem with abortion in general.
This thread was merely an appeal to emotions against PP. Would they simply dispose of the fetusses, he could have created a headline just as dramatic as this one ("What´s PP´s defense for throwing baby brains in the trash?").
 
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Well, to me it´s pretty clear.
Autumnleaf has a problem with abortion in general.
This thread was merely an appeal to emotions against PP. Would they simply dispose of the fetusses, he could have created a headline just as dramatic as this one ("What´s PP´s defense for throwing baby brains in the trash?").

Are you saying they are "baby" brains?
 
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...It's really not that complicated.

That's because you seem to base your opinions on facts and reality. Not everyone seems to be operating from the same playbook in this thread. Some people seem to live in an alternate universe where doctors are sociopaths and murderers and we need to believe videos edited by crusaders over the unedited versions of those videos.
 
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What does that mean?
As said, this isn't hard to understand.

I have a problem with being murdered. However, IF I am going to be murdered either way, I'd prefer my organs be used for something productive rather than not.
 
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Are you saying they are "baby" brains?
No.
The OP said it. (Actually, he said "babay brains", but I am assuming that was just a typo). I see no reason to think that he would stop calling them "baby brains" if they were disposed of instead of being sold. Do you?
 
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As said, this isn't hard to understand.

I have a problem with being murdered. However, IF I am going to be murdered either way, I'd prefer my organs be used for something productive rather than not.

I would suspect that most have a problem with being murdered, including very small babies.
 
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No.
The OP said it. (Actually, he said "babay brains", but I am assuming that was just a typo). I see no reason to think that he would stop calling them "baby brains" if they were disposed of instead of being sold. Do you?

You gave an example of how you'd rename the thread and said "baby" brains, which acknowledges that these little ones being murdered in cold blood are "babies".

Was that a slip of the tongue, so to speak?
 
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That's because you seem to base your opinions on facts and reality. Not everyone seems to be operating from the same playbook in this thread. Some people seem to live in an alternate universe where doctors are sociopaths and murderers and we need to believe videos edited by crusaders over the unedited versions of those videos.

I didn't bring up the psychopathic monstrous doctor that would murder said man and then do "good" by donating the murdered mans body parts, and for all intents and purposes this monstrous doctor murdered said man for the purpose of getting his body parts and thus do "good".

Yeah, what's wrong with that?
 
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No.
The OP said it. (Actually, he said "babay brains", but I am assuming that was just a typo). I see no reason to think that he would stop calling them "baby brains" if they were disposed of instead of being sold. Do you?

Interesting that you left "baby" in the title you would've changed it to....
 
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