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Refuting Sola Scriptura - Why the Bible Alone is Not Sufficient

Do You Adhear to Sola Scriptura?


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Nooooooo. Trusting the contents to be correct and of divine origin is not the same as worshipping it. You know this.

You mean taking for granted the mistranslated, additions, deletions, modifications, etc. as of divine origin?
 
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You mean taking for granted the mistranslated, additions, deletions, modifications, etc. as of divine origin?
No. But if that is your "go to" response, it seems to me that you're conceding that "worshipping the Bible" is not a serious accusation. People just do not do that.
 
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No. But if that is your "go to" response, it seems to me that you're conceding that "worshipping the Bible" is not a serious accusation. People just do not do that.
Really? Because I have heard many accusations that Catholics 'worship' statues. And we do not do that.

Nothing is assumed here.
 
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Really? Because I have heard many accusations that Catholics 'worship' statues. And we do not do that.

Nothing is assumed here.

People just do not worship Bibles, but some people do apparently worship statues. The one doesn't either validate or invalidate the other.
 
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People just do not worship Bibles, but some people do apparently worship statues. The one doesn't either validate or invalidate the other.
If someone 'trusts' in the written scripture so much, that they ignore a calling from the Holy Spirit because they believed it conflicts with their interpretation of scripture, how is that not bible idolatry?

I know so many people who make decisions based on an incorrect understanding of scripture. That is what happens when you place God's recorded word, above his living word. They are both God's word and are therefore equally in authority.
 
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No. But if that is your "go to" response, it seems to me that you're conceding that "worshipping the Bible" is not a serious accusation. People just do not do that.

They may not be worshiping, but may be caught in the whirlpool of convenient private interpretations!
 
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They may not be worshiping, but may be caught in the whirlpool of convenient private interpretations!
Fine, but disagreements over interpretation and worshipping the Bible are miles apart as issues.

If we agree that the "they worship the Bible" claim is bogus, that's a gain, since differences of opinion about the meaning of some or many Bible verses is a part of Christianity and affects every denomination. The point there is that it's the Bible that holds the answers, not something of Man instead.
 
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No, but people do worship the saints. So now you know.

But, people say Catholics who kneel in front of statues and crosses etc are worshiping them! So i guess it must be the same for all Christians who kneel in front of their bed to say their prays. They must be worshiping their beds!!!
 
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If someone 'trusts' in the written scripture so much, that they ignore a calling from the Holy Spirit because they believed it conflicts with their interpretation of scripture, how is that not bible idolatry?

Why not word that correctly and ask why it's not "Bible idolatry" if people don't agree with your denomination. That's what you're really asking.

And the answer should be obvious--it's an insult looking for some reason to be used. You might as well call anything "idolatry" if someone values it and you don't.
 
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But, people say Catholics who kneel in front of statues and crosses etc are worshiping them! So i guess it must be the same for all Christians who kneel in front of their bed to say their prays. They must be worshiping their beds!!!

You can "guess" all you want, but that's a strictly illogical thing so say. Is there some reason you WANT to believe this--some reason you feel better thinking it's true. Or is the idea just to be contrary?
 
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No, but people do worship the saints. So now you know.
Catholics do not worship saints. If someone says they are a Catholic and they worship saints they are not a Catholic, because heresy invokes automatic excommunication.
 
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Well, that was fun, but the topic is the sufficiency of Scripture. All those who don't think it is adequate for its purpose and think the opinions of men are equally authoritative, please offer us some real reasons for thinking it to be so.
 
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Catholics do not worship saints. If someone says they are a Catholic and they worship saints they are not a Catholic, because heresy invokes automatic excommunication.

This is very true indeed.

It amazes me how many people think we worship Mary, the Saints, Statues, Crosses etc!!! Shows how uneducated and mislead they really are! Thats why i asked about 'ordinary Christains' kneeling by their beds to pray. Are they worshiping their beds? Of course not!! Exactly the Same as us Catholics when we kneel in front of the Cross, or a Statue etc.

WE ARE NOT WORSHIPING A STATUE! WE ARE NOT WORSHIPING A SAINT! WE ARE NOT WORSHIPING MARY!!

This is rubbish thrown around by those who hate Catholics!!
 
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