After Kim Davis is jailed, clerk's office issues marriage license to gay couple (Moved)

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And in the present, marriage still means the same thing. Welcome to reality.

The reality is that darn near anyone can perform a wedding ceremony these days and have it legally recognized... "God" has nothing to do with it; hasn't for a while.
 
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The US Supreme Court says otherwsie. Welcome top the real reality.

In Dred Scott v. Sanford, the Supreme Court ruled that the children of slaves born in the United States weren't citizens and could not be offered constitutional protections under the law.

I don't define my reality by what the Supreme Court says. Obviously you do, hence the difference.
 
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If they're members of the opposite sex, marriage.

But if it is done in the courthouse, is it religious marriage since it was not done in a church or a minister?
 
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The reality is that darn near anyone can perform a wedding ceremony these days and have it legally recognized... "God" has nothing to do with it; hasn't for a while.

That's because what you're calling "marriage" isn't actually marriage. That "marriage" has no real meaning.
 
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That's your story and you're sticking to it, that is, until if flounders under the weight of any scrutiny.

Then provide some scrutiny -- do more than assert.
 
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That's because what you're calling "marriage" isn't actually marriage. That "marriage" has no real meaning.

It has legal meaning, which is important to the state and the married couple looking for legal rights.
 
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But if it is done in the courthouse, is it religious marriage since it was not done in a church or a minister?

Marriage is a religious institution. So yes, it's still marriage so long as it fits the definition of what a marriage is.
 
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That's because what you're calling "marriage" isn't actually marriage. That "marriage" has no real meaning.

Not to you, perhaps -- but how much weight does your opinion carry?
 
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Marriage is a religious institution. So yes, it's still marriage so long as it fits the definition of what a marriage is.

Which religion then? Under which religion did I get married under, as an atheist?
 
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Marriage is a religious institution. So yes, it's still marriage so long as it fits the definition of what a marriage is.

Actually it can be secular, or religious or both.
 
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Marriage is a religious institution. So yes, it's still marriage so long as it fits the definition of what a marriage is.

Marriage is also a civil contract.
 
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The only one that's reflective of the existent objective reality, Christianity.

So the government is endorsing Christianity by recognizing marriages?
 
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In Dred Scott v. Sanford, the Supreme Court ruled that the children of slaves born in the United States weren't citizens and could not be offered constitutional protections under the law.
I don't define my reality by what the Supreme Court says. Obviously you do, hence the difference.

And Dred Scott was overruled. Nice try.
 
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