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[Michael]

I do not incorporate either into my worldview.

Baloney. You've been insisting that Cosmoquest and mainstream consensus is something that I should worry about. Why? You simply avoid all the hard questions.

 

[Michael]

I look at it with awe and wonder. But it does not shape the way I live my life or interact with my everyday world.

Except when you appeal to authority in post after post......

If it were somehow different (expanding/static/eternal/contracting) I don't see that it would affect the price of milk at the market.

And if it's alive?

 

[Michael]

What is your position?

And Michael, in regards to the cosmology theory of (Lambda-CDM) and (Panetheism) that you brought up, which one do you accept?

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I'm not a fan of Lambda-CDM, but I accept EU/PC theory which is what ultimately what made me reconsider my position on Panetheism.

 

[ScottA]

I'll play this game.

You can't "miss" anything in this day and age. Except for Bigfoot, and the pesky extraterrestrial aliens that occasionally abduct people, it gets recorded and posted somewhere.

If it just happened, you should have at least recorded it with your cell phone camera.

No. You're coming in late in the game. It happened 2000 years ago. But instead of believing the history of it, you believed the history story that was a ploy to draw out the riff raff, to separate [by intelligent design] the wheat from the chaff. Both stories are riddled, causing one to choose. You did not choose wisely...or should I say, "Professing to be wise, they became fools."

Meanwhile, your playbook offers no more evidence of its claims than we have offered you...except those from your own play book. Which, by your own rules...is not admissible.

 

[Michael]

What matters to me is that I'd like to see further discussion and answer to the question posed in post#685: "... of why you accept one cosmology theory (Lambda-CDM) and reject another (Panetheism)."

That's a great question worthy of an answer. I know folks who have integrated both into how they view the cosmos.

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He's been appealing to authority throughout this thread, but apparently it's easier for him to feign neutrality since he has no logical explanation for preferring one over the other.

 

[Loudmouth]

No. You're coming in late in the game. It happened 2000 years ago. But instead of believing the history of it, you believed the history story that was a ploy to draw out the riff raff, to separate [by intelligent design] the wheat from the chaff. Both stories are riddled, causing one to choose. You did not choose wisely...or should I say, "Professing to be wise, they became fools."

Meanwhile, your playbook offers no more evidence of its claims...except those from your own play book. Which, by your own rules...is not admissible.

So what of all the other religious texts? Do you accept them as true as well? Do you believe that Muhammad was the prophet of Allah? Did Joseph Smith really find those golden plates? Or are you selective in which supposed histories you will accept as true?

 

[Davian]

Who cares.

Nobody. That was the intent of my comment.

 

[Davian]

No. Sorry, but your limited vocabulary doesn't have a word for it...well, it does, but you have not learned it.
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I believe the word is "fantasy".

"Imaginary" would also work for what he describes.

 

[Davian]

... You've been duped.

The Reality Delusion by ScottA. Look for it on the New York Times bestseller list.

 

[Michael]

Nobody. That was the intent of my comment.

Do you really think that all your personal attacks and constant insults are helpful to your case?

 

[Davian]

No. <snip back-pedalling>

Yes. You fallacy was challenged. Step up to the plate, or back to the dugout. Continue the game you started.

 

[Michael]

What matters to me is that I'd like to see further discussion and answer to the question posed in post#685: "... of why you accept one cosmology theory (Lambda-CDM) and reject another (Panetheism)."

That's a great question worthy of an answer. I know folks who have integrated both into how they view the cosmos.

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FYI, you're absolutely right that it's possible to integrate both Lambda-CDM and Panentheism, but the electrical aspects of the cosmos is what ultimately got me to rethink my position on Panentheism.

 

[Davian]

I have no problem 'seeing' the God that I believe in. What's your problem?

I can see the Universe as well. I just don't call it "God".

 

[Michael]

I believe the word is "fantasy".

Considering the fact that you personally believe that 95 percent of the universe is invisible, you really just come off as a hypocrite.

 

[Michael]

I can the the Universe as well. I just don't call it "God".

FYI, that's another example of your personal "choice' in the matter.

 

[Davian]

He's been appealing to authority throughout this thread,

Quote where have I done this, keeping in mind that the appeal to authority is not fallacious when it is an actual authority.

but apparently it's easier for him to feign neutrality since he has no logical explanation for preferring one over the other.

Or, I am speaking honestly. Has that occurred to you?

 

[Davian]

Considering the fact that you personally believe that 95 percent of the universe is invisible, you really just come off as a hypocrite.

Even with that fancy hat, you fail at reading minds.

 

[Davian]

FYI, that's another example of your personal "choice' in the matter.

The word "God" carries a lot of baggage. Why use it where it is not warranted?

 

[Davian]

Do you really think that all your personal attacks and constant insults are helpful to your case?

1) I have no case to make
2) Quote me where I have done so.

 

[Davian]

Baloney. You've been insisting that Cosmoquest and mainstream consensus is something that I should worry about. Why? You simply avoid all the hard questions.

You misrepresented what I have said. I don't see any value in repeating myself.