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BobRyan said: ↑
The reason for changing the Lord's day from Saturday to Sunday lies in the fact that to the Christian church the first day of the week had been made double ho
So long as we understand that although the Catholic Church changed the SOLEMNITY from Saturday to Sunday, we didn't change the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. We switched our worship from Sabbath to the Lord's Day. If you look up Sabbath in the Catholic Encyclopedia, it will still say it goes from Friday sundown until Saturday sundown.
So long as we understand that although the Catholic Church changed the SOLEMNITY from Saturday to Sunday, we didn't change the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. We switched our worship from Sabbath to the Lord's Day. If you look up Sabbath in the Catholic Encyclopedia, it will still say it goes from Friday sundown until Saturday sundown.
There is no reason to think that the Bible has the Lord's Day on Shabbat. According to Act 20:7 the Church was already meeting on the first day of the week for the Lord's Supper.The text says "changing the Lord's day from Saturday" admitting that this is the day as given in the Bible. In my initial statements I was merely trying to make that same point - that the Bible has the Lord's Day on Saturday.
No they are not. Go back and read what I said again. Pay close attention to the word solemnity.The churches own words are in conflict with what you say.
Im not playing this word game with you. The RCC set aside Sabbath for Sunday. I didn't even post ALL of the quotes from church leaders that make this point unmistakably clear. Her daughters (the rest of the gentile protestant church) persist in this very same errorNo they are not. Go back and read what I said again. Pay close attention to the word solemnity.
You are incorrect, and unwilling to read carefully the nuances of what exactly went on. Catholics do not worship on the Sabbath. We worship on the Lord's Day, which is not the Sabbath.Im not playing this word game with you. The RCC set aside Sabbath for Sunday. I didn't even post ALL of the quotes from church leaders that make this point unmistakably clear. Her daughters (the rest of the gentile protestant church) persist in this very same error
I am not incorrect, you dont read what is written, you deny the very words of the catholic church itself.You are incorrect, and unwilling to read carefully the nuances of what exactly went on. Catholics do not worship on the Sabbath. We worship on the Lord's Day, which is not the Sabbath.
Which is not the same thing as saying that Sunday is the Sabbath. Sheesh.The RCC forbade the observance of Sabbath and exchanged it for Sunday and repackaged it as "the lords day"
There is no reason to think that the Bible has the Lord's Day on Shabbat. According to Act 20:7 the Church was already meeting on the first day of the week for the Lord's Supper.
This is what I have been saying. It is different from saying the CC moved the Sabbath.We move from the "Sabbath" to the "first day after the Sabbath", from the seventh day to the first day:
This is what I have been saying. It is different from saying the CC moved the Sabbath.
There is only one thing I take issue with: The Lord's Day. Just as the Sabbath was always Saturday, the Lord's Day was always Sunday.We move from the "Sabbath" to the "first day after the Sabbath", from the seventh day to the first day:
I agree - if that is all that had been said it could be argued that you are in complete agreement.
but in this case -
But in this case we see a very different set of details -- much harder to reconcile with your statements.
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The reason for changing the Lord's day from Saturday to Sunday lies in the fact that to the Christian church the first day of the week had been made double holy...
nothing is said in the bible about the change of the Lord's day from Saturday to Sunday..that is why we find so illogical the attitude of many non-Catholic who say they will believe nothing unless they can find it in the bible and yet will continue to keep Sunday as the Lord's day on the say-so of the Catholic church
There is only one thing I take issue with: The Lord's Day. Just as the Sabbath was always Saturday, the Lord's Day was always Sunday.
The early Christian writers also bear witness to the observance of the Lord's Day (Sunday) over the Hebrew Sabbath (Saturday). http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/resources/apologetics/catholic-doctrines-and-practices/the-sabbath-or-the-lords-day/That is a common view - but interestingly - the RCC itself does not appear to take that view.
I think alot of people have Acts 20:7 out of context. Jesus was not instituting a replacement for Passover and outside of Acts 20:7, there is no where else in the NT in which there purpose was to meet on the 1st day of the week to break bread, that was just one instance of them meeting together.There is no reason to think that the Bible has the Lord's Day on Shabbat. According to Act 20:7 the Church was already meeting on the first day of the week for the Lord's Supper.