Evolution

[Richardthelambheart]

So if a man saw and heard Jesus
and Jesus told that man to write it down
and give it to all the churches to read
and if they read it, they would be specially blessed by god
dont you think YOU want to get a New Living Translation out now today and read the whort book of REVELATION TODAY?

It is not much longer than an articlein a magazine...
and god told us to read it believe it obey it and follow it...

Yes, someone wrote it down thats not what matters
what matters is JESUS SPOKE IT and his words were what was written down for those who live in the last days.

so I read and believe what Jesus said.

and I dont believe what paastors say when they say you cant understand it.
Because Jesus said I can understand it
JESUS TOLD ME TO READ IT

Rev 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
Rev 1:4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;
Rev 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
Rev 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

 

[Richardthelambheart]

so
back to creation...
He spoke and it stood fast...
I believe it...

Zechariah_7:7 Should ye not hear the words which the LORD hath cried by the former prophets?

Luk_12:12 For the Holy Ghost shall teach you...

Joh_14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you in my word the bible.

1Jn_2:27 But the holy spirit which ye have received of Jesus abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you:
but as the same holy spirit teacheth you of all things, and he is truth, and is no lie, and even as the holy spirit hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

pretty simple....
don't believe men, believe the holy spirit as you read the bible.

 

[Richardthelambheart]

weird world:

On star trek "Q" shows up and creates things out of thin air. Pagans imagine beings powerful enough to create things out of nothing and guys go OOOOOooooo YEAH!

On Bewitched, Samantha twitches her nose and things appear and disappear and women go OOOOooo YEAH...

and these are fiction...

but GOD HIMSELF who SAID THAT HE CREATES ALL THINGS INSTANTLY you dont believe?

wow!


david said
Psa_33:9 For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast.
David the king whom God spoke to and told him said this.

Moses the prophet wrote down what God said:

Gen_1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

Now "Q" you would believe
and "samantha" you would believe,
and they are FICTION
but GOD in his WORD you dont believe?

2Th_2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

 

[gord44]

I go for what God's own Creation is showing us. We seem to be at a cross roads because Creation is showing us something completely different than instantaneous creation. Who to believe? God's own Creation as Created by God, or the creation myth of an ancient middle-eastern tribe of desert dwellers. That's how I look at it.

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Indeed. I believe what God's creation shows, not the words in old books.

 

[bhsmte]

Welcome to a world where faith is alive and well.

Indeed.

Many, many different faith beliefs out there and there will continue to be.

 

[Richardthelambheart]

Its your life

 

[dlamberth]

I would be a fool not to listen exactly what Daniel wrote

When it comes to the Creation process, I would be a fool not to listen to what God's own Creation, as created by God and signed off with His own signature is telling us.

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[Richardthelambheart]

Creation matches Gods word
Gods word says there was a flood
we have fossils of men and dinosaurs together, grand canyos and shells found it mountains
Gods creation is his word and his word upholds all creations

God created all things instantly and then there was a flood.
simple

 

[Richardthelambheart]

I believe Gods word when it says the earth is round and hangs in space.
I dont believe mens traditions who spoke against Gods word saying the earth is flat and threw galileo in jail
mens traditions are just ignorance.

Isa_40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the sphere of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out space as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

 

[bhsmte]

ev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto Jesus, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
Rev 1:2 Who wrote it all down faithfully, all of the word of God, and of the testimony stories that Jesus Christ told him, and of all things that John was shown and he did see with his own eyes.
Rev 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth these things God showed me, and they that hear the reading of these words of this prophecy of the revelation of Jesus to John, and keep and follow and obey all those things which are written in this book here: for the time is at hand.

It would be extremely un-wise not to read and believe what Jesus himself spoke to us in the book of Revelation.

I guess this means the majority of Christians are un-wise in your book, because they agree with evolution.

 

[BobRyan]

If that is how your mind works, than that is quite easy, not much thought required. Someone wrote this down, so it is true.

IF God is just "someone" just some guy down the street - then that would be true. But if God is the infinite all-knowing Creator God of the Bible - well then that is a different matter altogether.

"Someone wrote this -- it is true" is circular reasoning if it merely assumes the salient point of the point being debated, rather than proving it.

 

[bhsmte]

IF God is just "someone" just some guy down the street - then that would be true. But if God is the infinite all-knowing Creator God of the Bible - well then that is a different matter altogether.

"Someone wrote this -- it is true" is circular reasoning if it merely assumes the salient point of the point being debated, rather than proving it.

You are not basing what this God is, by what is written in the stories?

 

[BobRyan]

I guess this means the majority of Christians are un-wise in your book, because they agree with evolution.

Interesting point about "Majority".

The Majority of the Jews of Christ's day did not accept Christ as the Messiah. But there are about 2 billion Christians now and they will not reject Christ based on that former majority opinion as we probably all agree.

Here is another quote about "majority" views on the Bible and evolution

Originally Posted by BobRyan ============================================
One leading Hebrew scholar is James Barr, Professor of Hebrew Bible at Vanderbilt University and former Regius Professor of Hebrew at Oxford University in England. Although he does not believe in the historicity of Genesis 1, Dr. Barr does agree that the writer's intent was to narrate the actual history of primeval creation. Others also agree with him.

Probably, so far as I know, there is no professor of Hebrew or Old Testament at any world-class university who does not believe that the writer(s) of Genesis 1-11 intended to convey to their readers the ideas that (a) creation took place in a series of six days which were the same as the days of 24 hours we now experience; . . . Or, to put it negatively, the apologetic arguments which suppose the "days" of creation to be long eras of time, the figures of years not to be chronological, and the flood to be a merely local Mesopotamian flood, are not taken seriously by any such professors, as far as I know.

James Barr, letter to David Watson, 1984.
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[bhsmte]

Interesting point about "Majority".

The Majority of the Jews of Christ's day did not accept Christ as the Messiah. But there are about 2 billion Christians now and they will not reject Christ based on that former majority opinion as we probably all agree.

Here is another quote about "majority" views on the Bible and evolution

Originally Posted by BobRyan ============================================
One leading Hebrew scholar is James Barr, Professor of Hebrew Bible at Vanderbilt University and former Regius Professor of Hebrew at Oxford University in England. Although he does not believe in the historicity of Genesis 1, Dr. Barr does agree that the writer's intent was to narrate the actual history of primeval creation. Others also agree with him.

Probably, so far as I know, there is no professor of Hebrew or Old Testament at any world-class university who does not believe that the writer(s) of Genesis 1-11 intended to convey to their readers the ideas that (a) creation took place in a series of six days which were the same as the days of 24 hours we now experience; . . . Or, to put it negatively, the apologetic arguments which suppose the "days" of creation to be long eras of time, the figures of years not to be chronological, and the flood to be a merely local Mesopotamian flood, are not taken seriously by any such professors, as far as I know.

James Barr, letter to David Watson, 1984.
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That's peachy and all, but I was addressing my question to the poster who made the claim it was un-wise to go against the bible.

Since the majority of Christians agree with evolution and this is a fact, I was curious whether he felt the majority of Christians were un-wise.

 

[jacknife]

Creation matches Gods word
Gods word says there was a flood
we have fossils of men and dinosaurs together, grand canyos and shells found it mountains
Gods creation is his word and his word upholds all creations

God created all things instantly and then there was a flood.
simple

No we don't.

 

[AV1611VET]

I guess this means the majority of Christians are un-wise in your book, because they agree with evolution.

Don't overlook the fact that evolutionists profess themselves wise.

Verily they have their reward.

 

[gord44]

The thing that always gets me is evolution wasn't 'created' to prove the Bible wrong. It came out of observing the universe, nature, creation, etc. And based on these observations theories came forth. These theories collided with a literal Biblical interpretation and hence we get the whole Creation vs Evolution. Evolution is based on what is observed. The conclusion comes for these observations. Creationists start with a conclusion and work backwards. For this reason, I have to go with evolution. Really I couldn't care less either way as it has no bearing on my path, but evolutionists hold the upper hand from what I see.

 

[AV1611VET]

The thing that always gets me is evolution wasn't 'created' to prove the Bible wrong.

You're entitled to your opinion.

And according to the Bible, evolution was "invented."

 

[bhsmte]

Don't overlook the fact that evolutionists profess themselves wise.

Verily they have their reward.

I will keep that in mind AV.

 

[AV1611VET]

I will keep that in mind AV.

Don't worry.

If they forget, they'll be reminded.