Dear Christian, why don't you ...?

[PsychoSarah]

If that encompasses man from animals and a first lifeform, then that means biology is a total crock.

Just because you don't like it doesn't make it wrong, and just because the bible claims to be true doesn't make it so.

 

[AV1611VET]

... and just because the bible claims to be true doesn't make it so.

Did Superman fly before he claimed to be Superman?

Or did he claim to be Superman first, then flew?

 

[PsychoSarah]

Did Superman fly before he claimed to be Superman?

Or did he claim to be Superman first, then flew?

"When Superman first appeared in 1938, the comic said that he was incredibly strong, could withstand anything less than a bursting shell from a tank, and was able to leap 1/8th of a mile. And that was it! His ability to fly first showed up in the radio series and his original cartoons."

Claimed to be Superman first, apparently.

 

[sandybay]

just because the bible claims to be true doesn't make it so.

Did Superman fly before he claimed to be Superman?

Or did he claim to be Superman first, then flew?

Do you align the Bible with a comic book hero? if you do I can see where you are coming from.

 

[dad]

That's only true in your world but luckily for you and me there are people who know better, they are feeding us all and fighting disease on our behalf,

Let's face it the first lifeform feeds no one. It never existed even. Only in the dreams of evos.

we are even able to communicate across the world as we are and we are all living longer because of people who know things we don't.

Not because of any claim about man coming from a flatworm or ape.

We don't have to use their technology but it's there if we want it.

The old 'pretend that all knowledge is part of fraudulent godless so called science' routine. Clean up your act woman.

 

[dad]

Just because you don't like it doesn't make it wrong, and just because the bible claims to be true doesn't make it so.

The first lifeform never existed to like or dislike. Your problem is that there is no proof for the little specter and never will be.

 

[Loudmouth]

The first lifeform never existed to like or dislike. Your problem is that there is no proof for the little specter and never will be.

Where is your evidence that it never existed?

 

[PsychoSarah]

The first lifeform never existed to like or dislike. Your problem is that there is no proof for the little specter and never will be.

Life exists, but there is clear evidence that it hasn't always existed. For crying out loud, even the bible claims a start to life, and at most in that situation, it might be a tie of all the first living things made. but there would still be a start.

 

[dad]

Where is your evidence that it never existed?

None needed. You made it up. Then you expect evidence it did or did not exist!!? Science cannot prove any first lifeform or not.

 

[dad]

Life exists, but there is clear evidence that it hasn't always existed.

Great, so God is right. Who thought it 'always existed' on earth?

For crying out loud, even the bible claims a start to life,

Jesus is the Life. He always was. No start. Man was created on earth so of course had a start.

and at most in that situation, it might be a tie of all the first living things made. but there would still be a start.

Exactly! That is what creation is about. You guys are just now cluing in?

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

Clean up your act woman.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

Life exists, but there is clear evidence that it hasn't always existed. For crying out loud, even the bible claims a start to life, and at most in that situation, it might be a tie of all the first living things made. but there would still be a start.

As thread has a specific question, I find most of stuff that's being tossed against the wall ain't sticking cause it ain't to do with EVOLUTION.

 

[dad]

violent video

That is supposed to be funny?

 

[sandybay]

The old 'pretend that all knowledge is part of fraudulent godless so called science' routine. Clean up your act woman.

I will clean up my act if you will promise to get some treatment.

 

[paul becke]

... accept the theory of evolution as a scientific fact?

If you decide not to read this thread, don't bother to comment.

(three stanza rule)

I'm not looking for: a summary of your doctoral thesis; a link to some peer-reviewed article; a witty one-liner; a funny picture; a video out-link; or for that matter anything but your honest thoughts as to why you don't accept the theory of evolution as a scientific fact?

I know you could turn this on me and ask me why I do, but the truth is (if you read what stuff I have written on this forum - heaven forbid!)
In short: I'm still trying to make my mind up, about what level of confidence to give to the evidence which I understand, related to it, thus far.

I know for some of you: you've had a great education; parents who explained it to you; friends who lovingly helped; pastors, teachers, random anonymous internet people who maybe shone a light in your mind; your grandad, uncle, lover, girlfriend, boyfriend -- who explained it -- though for some of us, it's been a gradual, rigorous climb, both mentally and emotionally to get the biology to flow.

After all, it can be terribly droll stuff!

So?

~~~
image from: Charles Darwin: Story Behind The Origin of Species

The posts in response to this thread at Uncommon Descent are particularly illuminating. It really is open and shut, as you'll see - and not in favour of evolution:

Jon Wells on pop science boilerplate | Uncommon Descent

 

[dad]

I will clean up my act if you will promise to get some treatment.

OK. I'll look into a a massage.

 

[Gottservant]

The question is not "how are we created?", but "how faithful are we to what we want to create?". (selah)

 

[PsychoSarah]

Great, so God is right. Who thought it 'always existed' on earth?
Jesus is the Life. He always was. No start. Man was created on earth so of course had a start.


Exactly! That is what creation is about. You guys are just now cluing in?

you fail to understand my point: that both the bible and evolution state that life started at some point.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

I will clean up my act if you will promise to get some treatment.

Yeah, I can think of just the thing.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

you fail to understand my point: that both the bible and evolution state that life started at some point.

It'd probably be more accurate to say: that Jesus and Stephen Hawking both agree that there was a beginning.
Evolution has more to do with what happened since :the beginning i.e. The Big Bang Theory.*

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* '....The Big Bang theory is the prevailing cosmological model for the universe from the earliest known periods through its subsequent large-scale evolution (1) (2) (3) ....' (Wiki: Big Bang)

(1) https://www.templetonpress.org/content/horizons-cosmology
(2) http://www.amazon.com/Big-Bang-The-Origin-Universe/dp/0007162219
(3) http://www.sciepub.com/reference/27843 / http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/