If we accept evolution, then where will we get our morality?

[AV1611VET]

This sentence doesn't make sense to me... what are you trying to say???

40% of the Ten Commandments, which you say 'is not a lot,' is enough to get scientists to bark about having the Ten Commandments removed from public property.

And why do they want them removed?

One of the reasons is that they claim it proselytizes them.

I would say that is more than enough.

 

[Gottservant]

If gravity is true, should we be throwing people off of tall buildings?

If it could be shown that throwing people off tall buildings was the only way to ensure that gravity remained gravity?

You seem to be suggesting that Evolution is a law, but a law has an effect - I have never heard Evolution described as having an effect, only a translation between equivalents.

For example, you might say "Evolution produces human beings" then you could say it was a law, but Evolution to my knowledge does not attempt to say this.

 

[AV1611VET]

There are literally people born incapable of telling right from wrong to various degrees with otherwise normal thought processes. And a number of disorders are associated with it. There is not a single personality trait that all humans are born with.

And God will take that into account at the Judgment.

Have you ever heard of the "Age of Accountability"?

 

[Loudmouth]

If it could be shown that throwing people off tall buildings was the only way to ensure that gravity remained gravity?

That makes zero sense.

You seem to be suggesting that Evolution is a law, but a law has an effect - I have never heard Evolution described as having an effect, only a translation between equivalents.

I have never heard it described as a "translation between equivalents". That is something you have made up.

Evolution has always been described as a cause and effect. The cause is imperfect replication and competition. The effect is change in species over time.

For example, you might say "Evolution produces human beings" then you could say it was a law,

Why would I say that? I have never said that Evolution must produce humans any more than I said erosion must produce the Grand Canyon.

 

[Loudmouth]

And God will take that into account at the Judgment.

Have you ever heard of the "Age of Accountability"?

What will Zeus take into account?

 

[Loudmouth]

40% of the Ten Commandments, which you say 'is not a lot,' is enough to get scientists to bark about having the Ten Commandments removed from public property.

Scientsts? I would think that there are plenty of christian scientists who have no problem with the Ten Commandments on government property. What does that have to do with science?

And why do they want them removed?

People think that the government should follow the Constitution which includes a wall of separation between church and state.

 

[AV1611VET]

What will Zeus take into account?

I think you forget who you're asking this question to.

Zeus will be judged by us.

1 Corinthians 6:3a Know ye not that we shall judge angels?

 

[AV1611VET]

Scientsts? I would think that there are plenty of christian scientists who have no problem with the Ten Commandments on government property. What does that have to do with science?

Did I not [sarcastically] address this in Post 26?

 

[Loudmouth]

I think you forget who you're asking this question to.

Are you saying that God only exists because you believe he exists? Outside of your beliefs, God doesn't exist?

 

[Gottservant]

That makes zero sense.

Wait for it...

Why would I say that? I have never said that Evolution must produce humans any more than I said erosion must produce the Grand Canyon.

And this is precisely the problem, the evidence is that erosion did cause the Grand Canyon, so I can say without a shadow of a doubt that Grand Canyon erosion is law for the Grand Canyon.

That's how law works.

So far from me not making sense, you apparently (for whatever reason) don't know how to recognize what does make sense.

 

[Loudmouth]

Wait for it...



And this is precisely the problem, the evidence is that erosion did cause the Grand Canyon,

Just because erosion did cause the Grand Canyon is not evidence that it HAD TO create the Grand Canyon. If the starting conditions were different, then there would be no Grand Canyon.

In Europe, there is no Grand Canyon. If erosion must cause the Grand Canyon, and erosion occurs in Europe, then why isn't there a Grand Canyon in Europe?

That's how law works.

Apparently, you don't understand how laws work. The interaction of laws will have different outcomes based on starting conditions and random changes along the way.

 

[Gottservant]

Just because erosion did cause the Grand Canyon is not evidence that it HAD TO create the Grand Canyon. If the starting conditions were different, then there would be no Grand Canyon.

In Europe, there is no Grand Canyon. If erosion must cause the Grand Canyon, and erosion occurs in Europe, then why isn't there a Grand Canyon in Europe?



Apparently, you don't understand how laws work. The interaction of laws will have different outcomes based on starting conditions and random changes along the way.

I said Grand Canyon Erosion, not erosion in general.

 

[Loudmouth]

I said Grand Canyon Erosion, not erosion in general.

I said erosion in general.

"I have never said that Evolution must produce humans any more than I said erosion must produce the Grand Canyon."

 

[Gottservant]

I said erosion in general.

"I have never said that Evolution must produce humans any more than I said erosion must produce the Grand Canyon."

We are discussing Law, not what you think you said.

 

[Loudmouth]

We are discussing Law, not what you think you said.

If Erosion is a law, then why isn't there a Grand Canyon in Europe?

Does this mean that erosion doesn't happen?

 

[AV1611VET]

If Erosion is a law, then why isn't there a Grand Canyon in Europe?

Maybe the Grand Canyon wasn't formed by erosion?

 

[Loudmouth]

Maybe the Grand Canyon wasn't formed by erosion?

Maybe you could reference facts instead of stories you make up?

 

[AV1611VET]

Maybe you could reference facts instead of stories you make up?

I made that up, did I?

 

[Loudmouth]

I made that up, did I?

You have made up a story about God making a serpentine path for rivers in order to ignore the overwhelming evidence for a million year history of canyon making.

 

[AV1611VET]

You have made up a story about God making a serpentine path for rivers in order to ignore the overwhelming evidence for a million year history of canyon making.

If my memory escapes me correctly, I was asked to provide a non-scientific answer for these meandering streams found here, there, and elsewhere.