Criteria for determining design

[crjmurray]

Exactly.

So you aren't going to answer?

 

[crjmurray]

I'd like to take a moment here and ask you what as a Deist you believe according to the creation of the universe and life on earth?

My beliefs don't have anything to do with your criteria for design.

 

[Oncedeceived]

My beliefs don't have anything to do with your criteria for design.

Again, you are in error of my motivations. I simply was asking a personal question. If you would rather not share that, I can accept that.

 

[Oncedeceived]

So you aren't going to answer?

I thought I kinda did.

 

[crjmurray]

I thought I kinda did.

I'm not trying to pull teeth here people. It's a simple question. What criteria do you use for determining if something is designed?

 

[Oncedeceived]

So am I imagining things here or have two posts simply disappeared?

 

[crjmurray]

Again, you are in error of my motivations. I simply was asking a personal question. If you would rather not share that, I can accept that.

I'm not going to discuss my beliefs in a thread where it has nothing to do with the topic. I don't ask people about their beliefs and I don't know what business you have asking about mine. Now I'd like to get back on the topic of design if that's alright.

 

[Oncedeceived]

Actually three. Strange.

 

[Oncedeceived]

I'm not going to discuss my beliefs in a thread where it has nothing to do with the topic. I don't ask people about their beliefs and I don't know what business you have asking about mine. Now I'd like to get back on the topic of design if that's alright.

Carry on.

 

[crjmurray]

So am I imagining things here or have two posts simply disappeared?

Imagining things.

 

[Oncedeceived]

Imagining things.

I guess I'll have to ask the admin.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

I'm not going to discuss my beliefs in a thread where it has nothing to do with the topic. I don't ask people about their beliefs and I don't know what business you have asking about mine. Now I'd like to get back on the topic of design if that's alright.

I just had the same probe. (here)

 

[Oncedeceived]

I just had the same probe. (here)

Except of course that my question to you was keeping with the thread.

 

[crjmurray]

Design criteria anyone?

 

[Oncedeceived]

Design criteria anyone?

Well like two of us have noted...life. The specific and necessary elements for the first life or cell would be a criteria for Design. The fact that mankind at this point in history points to the success of the plan.

 

[crjmurray]

Well like two of us have noted...life. The specific and necessary elements for the first life or cell would be a criteria for Design. The fact that mankind at this point in history points to the success of the plan.

I don't understand how life is a way to determine if something is designed. Care to elaborate?

 

[Oncedeceived]

I don't understand how life is a way to determine if something is designed. Care to elaborate?

If we disregard the extremely unlikely factors that allow life to exist at all on earth... fine tuning of the universe as well as the requirements for earth itself to accommodate life; we find that the first birth of life to be very unlikely as well if only natural occurring phenomena were at work.

Homochirality and the other requirements of the first life exemplify the limits of life arising by natural occurring phenomena.

 

[crjmurray]

If we disregard the extremely unlikely factors that allow life to exist at all on earth... fine tuning of the universe as well as the requirements for earth itself to accommodate life; we find that the first birth of life to be very unlikely as well if only natural occurring phenomena were at work.

Homochirality and the other requirements of the first life exemplify the limits of life arising by natural occurring phenomena.

So your criteria is "all this couldn't have happened naturally"?

 

[Oncedeceived]

So your criteria is "all this couldn't have happened naturally"?

Do you have another means of life's creation other than naturally or supernaturally?

 

[crjmurray]

Do you have another means of life's creation other than naturally or supernaturally?

I don't know if this is an answer or not.