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What is the seventh day as stated in the bible?

What is the seventh day as given in the bible?

  • The Seven day is the Sabbath.

  • The bible does not say what is the Seventh day.

  • The Seventh day is eternity.

  • The Seventh day is rest in Christ.

  • The Seventh day is the mellenium.

  • The Seventh day is stated to be Sunday.

  • Don't know what the bible says.

  • Don't care.


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Originally Posted by Elder 111 So what day is the seventh day
What does this question have in relevance to anyone's post, including the one you anchored this reply to?
It seems whenever someone makes a valid point, you always respond with an irrelevant question rather than respond to the point made. That isn't discussion by a long shot.
It is the point that is under contention. What does the bible say about the Seventh day? A DAY.
As a matter of fact what does God say? Would we reject His sayings on this matter? What is very interesting is that biblical understanding has shown us that the number seven is an indication of completeness/perfection. So that to find that "the Seventh day is Sabbath" repeated seven times in the bible is tremendous. Ex 16:26, 20:10 & 11, 31:15, Lev 23:3 & 24 and Deut 5:14.
To reject God's own words is to reject God. What should be our end if we do such a thing? God made a point of writing the same with His own hand. I would not dare ignore that!
 
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Originally Posted by Elder 111 So what day is the seventh day

It is the point that is under contention. What does the bible say about the Seventh day? A DAY.
As a matter of fact what does God say? Would we reject His sayings on this matter? What is very interesting is that biblical understanding has shown us that the number seven is an indication of completeness/perfection. So that to find that "the Seventh day is Sabbath" repeated seven times in the bible is tremendous. Ex 16:26, 20:10 & 11, 31:15, Lev 23:3 & 24 and Deut 5:14.
To reject God's own words is to reject God. What should be our end if we do such a thing? God made a point of writing the same with His own hand. I would not dare ignore that!
In other words, you didn't post anything related to Cribstyl's point. When you start off mentioning THE seventh day is A day in the singular, you contradict yourself each time you cite passages that refer to a weekly cycle. This is exactly the same mistake you make when you can't tell the difference in the tense of the verb "is" that doesn't refer to a singular event more than 2 million days ago.

Your use of the present tense verb 'is' reveals your obsession with the weekly periodic Sabbath. It ignores what the seventh day was, a singular event never repeated, which was God's rest.
Hebrews 4
Therefore, since a promise remains of entering His rest, let us fear lest any of you seem to have come short of it. 2 For indeed the gospel was preached to us as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in those who heard it. 3 For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said:

“So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest,’”

although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”; 5 and again in this place: “They shall not enter My rest.”
6 Since therefore it remains that some must enter it, and those to whom it was first preached did not enter because of disobedience, 7 again He designates a certain day, saying in David, “Today,” after such a long time, as it has been said:

“Today, if you will hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts.”

8 For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. 9 There remains therefore a rest for the people of God. 10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.
11 Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience.
David saw another day beyond the Sabbath.
Joshua leading Israel into the promised land didn't provide God's rest.
Indeed, that rest remained a promise unavailable during the Sabbath's tenure.

A tenure that didn't include the Gentiles living in Carribean island nations.

The Christian of faith has entered into that rest originating since the seventh day, God's rest, a singular event that hasn't ended. We already have the seventh day. This is what you are missing when you can't differentiate the tense of key verbs.
 
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Now that we have understood and accepted that the bible states that the Seventh day is the Sabbath, it is then clear that the Sabbath was created when the seventh day was. At creation!
Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
Ex 20:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
The Sabbath is the Seventh day! The Sabbath is the Lord's! (the Lord's day).
The question is, if we love the Lord why would we refuse to honor Him an on the Seventh day Sabbath? Just what God has made holy we have made unholy and have rejected as the Jews rejected Christ and called Him a devil.:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:
 
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Now that we have understood and accepted that the bible states that the Seventh day is the Sabbath, it is then clear that the Sabbath was created when the seventh day was. At creation!
How utterly false, and you continue to make the same mistake with verbal tenses that don't indicate the Sabbath was the seventh day of creation.
Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
Ex 20:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
The Sabbath is the Seventh day! The Sabbath is the Lord's! (the Lord's day).
The question is, if we love the Lord why would we refuse to honor Him an on the Seventh day Sabbath? Just what God has made holy we have made unholy and have rejected as the Jews rejected Christ and called Him a devil.:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:
And here I see you truncating a sentence that indicates the Sabbath is the seventh day of the weekly cycle - and you have nothing that shows the Sabbath existed in the creation account.
For reasons we can speculate on, you continue to reject the seventh day.
Once again...

Your use of the present tense verb 'is' reveals your obsession with the weekly periodic Sabbath. It ignores what the seventh day was, a singular event never repeated, which was God's rest.
Hebrews 4
Therefore, since a promise remains of entering His rest, let us fear lest any of you seem to have come short of it. 2 For indeed the gospel was preached to us as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in those who heard it. 3 For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said:

“So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest,’”

although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”; 5 and again in this place: “They shall not enter My rest.”
6 Since therefore it remains that some must enter it, and those to whom it was first preached did not enter because of disobedience, 7 again He designates a certain day, saying in David, “Today,” after such a long time, as it has been said:

“Today, if you will hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts.”

8 For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. 9 There remains therefore a rest for the people of God. 10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.
11 Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience.
David saw another day beyond the Sabbath.
Joshua leading Israel into the promised land didn't provide God's rest.
Indeed, that rest remained a promise unavailable during the Sabbath's tenure.

A tenure that didn't include the Gentiles living in Carribean island nations.

The Christian of faith has entered into that rest originating since the seventh day, God's rest, a singular event that hasn't ended. We already have the seventh day. This is what you are missing when you can't differentiate the tense of key verbs.
 
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It has been demonstrated previously that the rest of Hebrews 4 can not be rest in Jesus as some propose. That would mean that God have to rest in Jesus also. For the text say rest as God rested.
The rest can not be a rest from creation until now either for the text repeatedly mention "a day" and "another day". Such a time period as from creation until now can not be "a day":doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh:
 
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It has been demonstrated previously that the rest of Hebrews 4 can not be rest in Jesus as some propose. That would mean that God have to rest in Jesus also. For the text say rest as God rested.
The rest can not be a rest from creation until now either for the text repeatedly mention "a day" and "another day". Such a time period as from creation until now can not be "a day":doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh:
You're misrepresenting what others post as badly as you're misrepresenting the message conveyed in Hebrews 4. Of course 'demonstrated previously' refers to a straw man fallacy you invented, which no one is obligated to defend. The end result is that you simply won't respond to posts regardless of how many times they're repeated for you.
 
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You're misrepresenting what others post as badly as you're misrepresenting the message conveyed in Hebrews 4. Of course 'demonstrated previously' refers to a straw man fallacy you invented, which no one is obligated to defend. The end result is that you simply won't respond to posts regardless of how many times they're repeated for you.
Taking an example from the master Himself. Jesus did not content with error and pettiness, He got to the point as with Nicodemus, you must be born again.
Why content with that which is bias and unbiblical when I can present the truth!
Why did you not address the fact that Hebrews 4 mentions "a day" and the position you propose give us centuries/endless eternity.
 
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Taking an example from the master Himself. Jesus did not content with error and pettiness, He got to the point as with Nicodemus, you must be born again.
Why content with that which is bias and unbiblical when I can present the truth!
Why did you not address the fact that Hebrews 4 mentions "a day" and the position you propose give us centuries/endless eternity.
Do you need me to post the answer again?

Your use of the present tense verb 'is' reveals your obsession with the weekly periodic Sabbath. It ignores what the seventh day was, a singular event never repeated, which was God's rest.
Hebrews 4
Therefore, since a promise remains of entering His rest, let us fear lest any of you seem to have come short of it. 2 For indeed the gospel was preached to us as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in those who heard it. 3 For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said:

“So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest,’”

although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”; 5 and again in this place: “They shall not enter My rest.”
6 Since therefore it remains that some must enter it, and those to whom it was first preached did not enter because of disobedience, 7 again He designates a certain day, saying in David, “Today,” after such a long time, as it has been said:

“Today, if you will hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts.”

8 For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. 9 There remains therefore a rest for the people of God. 10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.
11 Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience.
David saw another day beyond the Sabbath.
Joshua leading Israel into the promised land didn't provide God's rest.
Indeed, that rest remained a promise unavailable during the Sabbath's tenure.

A tenure that didn't include the Gentiles living in Carribean island nations.

The Christian of faith has entered into that rest originating since the seventh day, God's rest, a singular event that hasn't ended. We already have the seventh day. This is what you are missing when you can't differentiate the tense of key verbs.
 
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Where do you find an evening and morning for the seventh day?
Days one to six was evening and morning are you going to tell us that the next "day", the seventh day was anything different? You must show us if it is so!
 
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Are trying to convince yourself? What is a day? If it is not 24 hours/evening and morning let us know.
Is it your desire to continue misrepresenting the narrative of Hebrews 4?
The answer is obvious.
You don't have any interest in the seventh day. The one and only seventh day in antiquity, and not the periodic Sabbath there are more than 73,000 in quantity of, and none of which were the seventh day recorded in the Genesis account.
 
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Where do you find an evening and morning for the seventh day?
True, there isn't a record written of the seventh day coming to an end. However, I focus more on the completion of God's work of creation, of which there is no record of it ending, and this is the present reality referred to as a rest that remains a promise to attain in the New Testament epistle quoted previously. God's rest is permanent, and doesn't occur in a cycle.
 
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No. You show me where there is an evening and morning of the seventh day.
The bible describes a day as evening and morning/24 hours. The text in Genesis 2 continuing from the creation account of 6 such days then says that on the Seventh day God rested. The context speaks to a fact that the Seventh day was the same as the previous six days. There is no biblical record that states differently! :doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh:
 
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Days one to six was evening and morning are you going to tell us that the next "day", the seventh day was anything different? You must show us if it is so!
We can't show you anything you wish not to see. You have the same Bible available to you as we do. Read it and believe it.

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The bible describes a day as evening and morning/24 hours. The text in Genesis 2 continuing from the creation account of 6 such days then says that on the Seventh day God rested. The context speaks to a fact that the Seventh day was the same as the previous six days. There is no biblical record that states differently! :doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh:
The 7th day of creation is a conclusive and final non reoccurring event. There is no end of the 7th day of creation. God stopped creating at the end of the 6th day and surveyed it on the 7th day onward.

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The 7th day of creation is a conclusive and final non reoccurring event. There is no end of the 7th day of creation. God stopped creating at the end of the 6th day and surveyed it on the 7th day onward.

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:o:o:o:o:o:o:o The week should be of six days then! God made an error, He does not even know what He is doing in this matter. Why did you not inform Him before?!!
The bible no way says that! That is not even an assumption, it is a perversion of God's word.
You are stating that a day is an endless period. :doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh:
 
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:o:o:o:o:o:o:o The week should be of six days then! God made an error, He does not even know what He is doing in this matter. Why did you not inform Him before?!!
The bible no way says that! That is not even an assumption, it is a perversion of God's word.
You are stating that a day is an endless period. :doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh:

The "beginning" and "ending" of each of the six time periods of creation is not repeated for the seventh "day." That's simply a scriptural fact, and all of your kicking and screaming cannot change that.

The seventh period of God's "rest" has no "closing." God's "rest" continues even unto the present. It is that rest, Gods rest, that all Christians are to participate in (Heb. 4:1-11). Rest that is made available to us in the Person of Jesus Christ.
 
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The 7th day of creation is a conclusive and final non reoccurring event. There is no end of the 7th day of creation. God stopped creating at the end of the 6th day and surveyed it on the 7th day onward.

bugkiller
:o:o:o:o:o:o:o The week should be of six days then! God made an error, He does not even know what He is doing in this matter. Why did you not inform Him before?!!
The bible no way says that! That is not even an assumption, it is a perversion of God's word.
You are stating that a day is an endless period. :doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh:
What week? There is no "week" mentioned when Bugkiller described an "event" consistent with the Genesis record.
The manner in which you misrepresent posts is consistent with the manner you misrepresent Scripture's testimony.
 
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