Blood moons

[Avid]

No, haven't seen Alberto Rivera, thank you for asking, I'll do a fast web search now and see what he's big on.

Is he talking about how any who live Godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution and the beheading of John the Baptist really is not a rare event for Christians around the world today? Is he talking about how God is trying to warn a nation which has fallen away from God?

It was about 30 or 40 years ago he was tell us this and other things as well.

There were a number of attempts on his life, and his wife is convinced one of those was the cause of his death. This man had firsthand knowledge of things we read about. He grew up and lived in Spain, and told (through an interpreter) things that made him VERY powerful enemies.

Chick Publications showed his information in a number of ways. you wil find most of what we know at their website.

http://chick.com/

Let me know if you need any more infor.

 

[SaintJoeNow]

I guess he was poisoned by Catholic thugs. There sure are some thugs who would like to poison me for things I've said. I only hope I have the grace and the strength to stand for the truth of the gospel openly when I know I will suffer for it. The nit-picking and character assassination attempts that happen here are nothing compared to the persecution of Christians throughout most of the last 2000 years. I really think the blood moons are signs from God trying to get our attention in combination with many other signs he gave through terrorist attacks and natural disasters.

Christians have for too long refused to listen to people like Rivera. God gave us preachers and teachers and we pay them to tickle our ears and tell us everything nice so nobody feels judged. Judgment must first begin at the house of God. If we won't listen to God's judgments through His Word by the Bible and by the men of God he gave to call us to repentance, He Himself will drive us to our knees by using outside forces to push us to seek His mercy. Then people will make every promise imaginable to serve God. For now, we can promise to serve him after Star Trek goes off the air.

 

[SaintJoeNow]

I know a lady whose grandfather was given land in Mexico in appreciation for saving the life of a Spanish general whose horse had fallen on him. That grandfather had witnessed firsthand the atrocities of the Catholic church against people who would not bow to their dogmas, and passed those stories and warnings down to his children and grandchildren.
Christians today have bought into "let's all co-exist", and I have to wonder if they are really Christians of if they are wolves in sheep's clothes trying to keep the church tied down.

 

[SaintJoeNow]

Part of the problem is how Dispensationalists categorize scripture.

DISPENSATIONALISM – CATEGORIZED SCRIPTURE LIST by Nathan Pitchford

Friday
May02, 2008
There's a Blood Moon Coming and Other Interesting Links

Friday, May 2, 2008 at 03:03PM

Everybody panic! There's a blood moon a-coming! Must mean that Jesus is coming back in 2015. That year solar and lunar eclipses will occur about the same time, near the fall Jewish feast days. That will keep all the prophecy pundits busy. Click here: Blood moon eclipses: 2nd Coming in 2015?

Here is a very helpful (and rather long) list of biblical passages which fly in the face of dispensationalism. Thanks to Monergism for posting this. Too bad the list is not taken from the ESV--its KJV! Nevetheless, this is great to give to someone re-thinking their eschatology. Click here: DISPENSATIONALISM – CATEGORIZED SCRIPTURE LIST

National Geographic recently published a very nice pictorial book on Bible history--apparently, it is quite beautiful. Too bad they got Genesis 22 wrong. I didn't know that Eid al-Adha is a "biblical holiday." You know . . . the day when Abraham sacrificed Ishamael on Mount Moriah. Have to add that one to the church calendar. Click here: The Washington Times, America's Newspaper

No surprise that Muslim converts to Christianity face great pressure and are often persecuted--even in the UK. Usually, they are not persecuted by the police called to protect them. But in this case it was the police who called the ex-Muslim a "crusader" and then ordered him to stop calling them. Meanwhile, the vacant house next door burned down. Now the UN is involved. Oh, that will fix everything! Click here: British Muslim 'bullied' for converting to Christianity -Times Online





written by Kim Riddlebarger

This has next to nothing to do with the OP and posts supporting the OP. You are the only one, as far as I know, who has implied the blood moons signify the return of the Lord on a given day. I think you are off your rocker here.
Your posts sounds so psychotic in it's antagonism to this thread that it makes practically zero sense.

 

[SaintJoeNow]

Part of the problem is how Dispensationalists categorize scripture.

DISPENSATIONALISM – CATEGORIZED SCRIPTURE LIST by Nathan Pitchford

Friday
May02, 2008
There's a Blood Moon Coming and Other Interesting Links

Friday, May 2, 2008 at 03:03PM

Everybody panic! There's a blood moon a-coming! Must mean that Jesus is coming back in 2015. That year solar and lunar eclipses will occur about the same time, near the fall Jewish feast days. That will keep all the prophecy pundits busy. Click here: Blood moon eclipses: 2nd Coming in 2015?

Here is a very helpful (and rather long) list of biblical passages which fly in the face of dispensationalism. Thanks to Monergism for posting this. Too bad the list is not taken from the ESV--its KJV! Nevetheless, this is great to give to someone re-thinking their eschatology. Click here: DISPENSATIONALISM – CATEGORIZED SCRIPTURE LIST

National Geographic recently published a very nice pictorial book on Bible history--apparently, it is quite beautiful. Too bad they got Genesis 22 wrong. I didn't know that Eid al-Adha is a "biblical holiday." You know . . . the day when Abraham sacrificed Ishamael on Mount Moriah. Have to add that one to the church calendar. Click here: The Washington Times, America's Newspaper

No surprise that Muslim converts to Christianity face great pressure and are often persecuted--even in the UK. Usually, they are not persecuted by the police called to protect them. But in this case it was the police who called the ex-Muslim a "crusader" and then ordered him to stop calling them. Meanwhile, the vacant house next door burned down. Now the UN is involved. Oh, that will fix everything! Click here: British Muslim 'bullied' for converting to Christianity -Times Online





written by Kim Riddlebarger

You are going out in space here, don't know where you are going but I'll try to bring you down to land....try looking at the OP and some of the supporting posts before you climb on your rocket and blast off into all kinds of stuff which is pretty much in ignorance of the OP and supporting posts. I didn't start this thread so I could follow a bunch of your rabbit trails all over which have nothing to do with anything I am saying in the OP or in the supporting posts.

 

[4x4toy]

I guess he was poisoned by Catholic thugs. There sure are some thugs who would like to poison me for things I've said. I only hope I have the grace and the strength to stand for the truth of the gospel openly when I know I will suffer for it. The nit-picking and character assassination attempts that happen here are nothing compared to the persecution of Christians throughout most of the last 2000 years. I really think the blood moons are signs from God trying to get our attention in combination with many other signs he gave through terrorist attacks and natural disasters.

Christians have for too long refused to listen to people like Rivera. God gave us preachers and teachers and we pay them to tickle our ears and tell us everything nice so nobody feels judged. Judgment must first begin at the house of God. If we won't listen to God's judgments through His Word by the Bible and by the men of God he gave to call us to repentance, He Himself will drive us to our knees by using outside forces to push us to seek His mercy. Then people will make every promise imaginable to serve God. For now, we can promise to serve him after Star Trek goes off the air.

Here's the thing , If Rivera was right to the magnitude he claims , then it's possible through demonic influence the plan that coincides with not only blood moon occurrence but other major fails of our great country and reveals a plan that is and has been bringing ruin and racing towards end time fulfillment ..

 

[SaintJoeNow]

Here's the thing , If Rivera was right to the magnitude he claims , then it's possible through demonic influence the plan that coincides with not only blood moon occurrence but other major fails of our great country and reveals a plan that is and has been bringing ruin and racing towards end time fulfillment ..

That's what the thread is about, the obvious warnings from God after His messages from His men have been ignored for so long. Good thing we know how the story ends. Because the time is short (warning signs from God or not, we need to be trying to reach the lost before it's forever too late for them, and we need to pray for grace to help in time of need. (quoting Avid's reference to the Bible there)

 

[SaintJoeNow]

Here's the thing , If Rivera was right to the magnitude he claims , then it's possible through demonic influence the plan that coincides with not only blood moon occurrence but other major fails of our great country and reveals a plan that is and has been bringing ruin and racing towards end time fulfillment ..

I often wonder if the stock market collapse seven years after nine eleven, 7 percent fall, 777 points 7 years after the Twin Towers were destroyed, was planned by demonic influences. The Bible does tell in at least two places off the top of my head, how God allowed demons to attack people to bring judgment. Leaders who govern by deceit in bed with demons who teach doctrines of devils from Hell......

I really hope I am entirely wrong and nothing with serious impact on our nation or on the world happens in late September, but like you said, I think there's going to be a lot of fireworks.

Obama is threatening to stop protecting Israel by US veto power in the UN.
That's not good. Many natural disasters have hit the US within 24 hours of US pressure on Israel to compromise with it's enemies. The day the USA formally withholds its veto power from protecting Israel to allow the UN to force the dividing of Jerusalem or the establishment of a Palestinian state....watch out.

1991... G. H. W. Bush started his land-for-peace plan to give away Israeli land. That same day, God sent "The Perfect Storm" with 100 foot waves crashing into New England and damaging President Bush's home.

1992...August 23...talks resume for Israel to surrender land for peace. Within 24 hours, Hurricane Andrew slammed the US.

1993...April 27-Sept. 13....Israel and the PLO work on and sign a compromise peace plan in Washington, D.C. During this same period, the USA is hit with the most devastating and widespread flooding in US history.

2001...Aug. 25-Sept. 10

This is the one I clearly remember watching unfold on national TV and I knew it was bad news and likely to anger God. I didn't really expect anything like the 9/11 attack which followed, but I was not surprised. Shocked, yes, but I knew it was the response to trying to pacify the enemies of Israel.

The US, Arabia, and Israel had prepared the most comprehensive "peace plan" ever. The Twin Towers were attacked just before the plans were finalized.

2002... Nov. 7-12... During Ramadan, Pres. Bush hosted a dinner to honor Islam and the "revelation of God's word in the holy Koran"; a slap in the face of God. When officials flew to pressure Israel, 88 out-of-season tornadoes hit 7 states.

2005....in August, the US pressured Israel into evacuating Gaza. Israelites dug up their dead to rebury them in new cemeteries. President Bush applauded the dividing of the holy land. The very next day, a tropical depression formed and then became Hurricane Katrina, the largest natural disaster in US History.

Watch out the first time the USA refuses to use it's veto power to protect Israel, and the way our President is talking now it could happen very soon.

 

[SaintJoeNow]

The OP of this thread is focused on events historically recorded, all of them shown on Nationally televised news...and the apparent hand of God in warning the USA against the ungodly path it is taking, forsaking the dedication our founding father's made in committing our nation to God.

 

[SaintJoeNow]

The blood moon is a scheduled event, scheduled the same as every full moon in the lunar cycle. What happens or does not happen on the days before or after or during the time of the blood moon at the end of the current extremely rare cycle of four blood moons remains to be seen.

Things are happening fast in the world, drastic changes toward ungodliness as the USA slides further and further away from serving God. The persecutions suffered by Christians in most of the world today are only a few steps away from the doors of Christians who sit and watch it all on the news while the world around them is pretty much all on it's way to Hell....and who cares?

 

[SaintJoeNow]

Here's the thing , If Rivera was right to the magnitude he claims , then it's possible through demonic influence the plan that coincides with not only blood moon occurrence but other major fails of our great country and reveals a plan that is and has been bringing ruin and racing towards end time fulfillment ..

Was watching some videos about the Nephilim last night, interesting stuff, not sure I buy it all and very sure it's really not important for my salvation or for anybody else's salvation. When dealing with people who claim to have had UFO encounters, I do take the approach of acknowledging their experiences as real but deceptions of demons which may or may not actually be taking on physical form. Things can appear to be things that they are not. The devil is a liar.

God set the sun, moon, and stars to rule the day and the night, for signs and for seasons. He calls all the stars by name, there are far too many of them to tell Adam the names of each one, but I do believe He told Adam the names of the important ones for Adam to know, and the signs of the constellations tell the story of the gospel as well as the battle and certain victory over Satan.
The prophecy in Micah, I think it's chapter 3:2, probably wrong in that chapter and verse reference and my critics can attack me for being wrong, but I can call them lazy if they say it's not in the Bible and they won't go look I up for themselves.....But it says something like " the moon shall be turned to blood and the sun will be darkened" in the days before the final judgment of God against the rebellious people on earth. They are going to cry out for the rocks to fall on them, they are going to seek death and not be about to find it, they are going to face the wrath of God and beg for death, no realizing the death they are begging for will bring them no relief when they are forever cast away in the Lake of Fire where the smoke of their torments will rise forever. God is warning lost people of impending judgment, and He's calling His children to service in these last days. He wants us to be His slaves, free to serve Him willfully and joyfully, giving us all things in the inheritance purchased for us by the blood of His Son. The saints of God will serve Him forever, He wants us to serve Him now as we are already in forever while the world around us is on thin ice melting over the fire of Hell. He wants us to care for the lost and dying and try to find the ones who are going to be saved. All can be saved. If we knew which will and which will not, then we don't have to care about who is dying and on their way to Hell. We do not know...do we care?

God always sends calls to repentance and service, always calls us to holiness and sanctification, always calls us to service because our self-deceptive sin nature always calls us to relax and enjoy the things of the world and not care about the world around us on thin ice melting over the fire of Hell.

 

[Hammster]

This should clear things up.

subversive1: The Blood Moon Hoax Exposed

 

[SaintJoeNow]

This should clear things up.

subversive1: The Blood Moon Hoax Exposed

Why don't you try refuting the dozens of historical facts I have mentioned and quit focusing on future events when nobody knows what will happen other than the fact that the fourth in a tetrarch series of blood moons will occur?

You are pretty much ignoring this whole thread by trying to act like it is about nothing except one future event. That's why I'm pretty much ignoring you.

 

[Hammster]

Why don't you try refuting the dozens of historical facts I have mentioned and quit focusing on future events when nobody knows what will happen other than the fact that the fourth in a tetrarch series of blood moons will occur?

You are pretty much ignoring this whole thread by trying to act like it is about nothing except one future event. That's why I'm pretty much ignoring you.

I only posted that so people could see for themselves the foolishness of worrying about blood moons.

 

[Grafted In]

Can't speak to the Scriptural aspect but about 45 years ago I had the incredible opportunity of seeing a blood moon. Very beautiful and awsome.

 

[SaintJoeNow]

whatever. You are ignoring the OP by focusing only on the title, you are ignoring pretty much the whole thread by only focusing on the title. I hope others will look at the OP and the supporing lists of historical facts, and maybe one of those persons will be one who realizes the time is short and the world is dying around and on thin ice melting over the fire of Hell, and we need to try to get the gospel to them while we can.


Many people are interested in end times events and warnings from God. Some of my lost friends will argue against the gospel until they are blue in the face, but they will listen when I point out how obvious it is that the world is lining up for Armageddon and a one-world government under the Anti-Christ.

This thread is designed as a tool for the gospel, and by ignoring it and trying to ruin it, I really have to wonder what you are about. Why do I see you saying nothing about the Lord or about the need for lost people to be saved or the need for saved people to serve God as they will be forever serving him in heaven? Why do you say nothing but "non-sense", "hoax" and so forth in little more than poorly framed one sentence statements which seem geared toward anything except promoting the gospel and encouraging Christians to serve the Lord by losing their lives for the gospel and Jesus' name sake?

 

[SaintJoeNow]

It was about 30 or 40 years ago he was tell us this and other things as well.

There were a number of attempts on his life, and his wife is convinced one of those was the cause of his death. This man had firsthand knowledge of things we read about. He grew up and lived in Spain, and told (through an interpreter) things that made him VERY powerful enemies.

Chick Publications showed his information in a number of ways. you wil find most of what we know at their website.

Chick Cartoon Tracts

Let me know if you need any more infor.

I don't have enough time to look at everything. The more I see, the more I wonder what it is that has kept God back from destroying America a long time ago. I guess it's all in line with end times scenario, all God's plan and His timing leading up to the world changing events prophesied in the Bible, events which will make the holocaust and WWII seem like nothing. Because of my age, with probably at least 20 more years of health, Lord permitting, I will be here to suffer for my Savior's name under the judgments that are sure to fall on my nation because we have as a nation forsaken God to whom our nation was solemnly dedicated in national ceremony on the church grounds which later became ground zero of 9/11/2001. If the blood moon in late September is the day of another severe warning from God, or if it is the day that the USA ceases to be the USA, or if it is the day the dollar collapse, or if it is the day we are hit by a nuke or dirty bomb that plunges us back into the 18th century totally unprepared to live that way, or if it is nothing but another day and nothing major happens that day, does not matter. People who wont listen to the apparent warnings from God in recent history won't listen to expose's from Alberto Rivera or anybody else. I can't listen to too much of that stuff because it's hard to see more of what I already know about the corruption in the world for which it is going to be judged and the probability that I am going to have to suffer for the Lord's name sake in that time. For now I only try to be ready by practicing a disciplined desire to serve the Lord and live my life consecrated to His gospel for Him. The better I serve Him today, the better prepared I will be to serve Him if I must suffer like so many Christians around the world today suffer tortures and executions for refusing to renounce their Savior.

Thank you for your post, I did look at some of the Alberto Rivera stuff, thank God for that man and the strength he had to serve God facing death threats for doing it. He set a fine example for us and I'm sure he found a fine reward in heaven.

 

[Hammster]

Just so we are clear, this is from the OP:

"A lot of people at church are talking about the upcoming blood moons and their timing tied to the Jewish holidays they fall on as continuing warnings from God about the way people are going in this world.

Some of the talk ties in from 9/11 when the Twin Towers were hit within 24 hours of President Bush's meeting with Israel to pressure them into a compromise with their enemies. The Twin Towers were built on the church grounds where George Washington met with government leaders to dedicate the nation to God, and the historic church house on those grounds remained standing after the towers fell....much more around that story that is far beyond coincidence....
And that was on a special Jewish holiday in 2001.

Seven years later, on that same Jewish holiday, stock marked fell 7 percent which was 777 points in 2008.

The series of blood moons of 2014-15, with a total eclipse in the series, is a rare event. "


So my link that addressed this was on topic.

 

[Hammster]

A lot of people at church are talking about the upcoming blood moons and their timing tied to the Jewish holidays they fall on as continuing warnings from God about the way people are going in this world.

Some of the talk ties in from 9/11 when the Twin Towers were hit within 24 hours of President Bush's meeting with Israel to pressure them into a compromise with their enemies. The Twin Towers were built on the church grounds where George Washington met with government leaders to dedicate the nation to God, and the historic church house on those grounds remained standing after the towers fell....much more around that story that is far beyond coincidence....
And that was on a special Jewish holiday in 2001.

Seven years later, on that same Jewish holiday, stock marked fell 7 percent which was 777 points in 2008.

The series of blood moons of 2014-15, with a total eclipse in the series, is a rare event. A guy at church said he is expecting a huge event with worldwide impact in the end of September. I am not looking for a sign to prove faith in God, or anything like that, not trying to put a date on the Lord's return. It simply seems obvious that 9/11 was a warning from God, as was the stock market crash 7 years later on that same Jewish holiday, Passover I believe, and that same Jewish holiday is coming again coinciding with the last of the blood moons in the chain.

Iran recently announced their intention to hit the USA with an EMP which would suddenly plunge the country pretty much into chaos by interrupting transportation, food supplies, and utilities. The US military would probably be pretty much nullified in that event as well. North Korea makes this same threat along with their rush to get ICBM's which can deliver nukes to the USA.


George Washington, in dedicating the country to God, warned of dire consequences if the nation turned away from it's dedication to God....on those very church grounds which later became Ground Zero where the Twin Towers fell.

Jesus said "when the Son of man comes, will he find faith upon the earth?"



I'm not big on remembering details, I prefer to remember the basic facts after researching a topic. The post here is sketchy, but for the most part the statements of events and their timing is accurate and easily documented with a little websearching.

I was told that the OP was about the gospel. I don't see anything about the gospel here.

 

[Hammster]

No, but there are many leaders focusing on the topic now. The first thing I saw about apparent warning signs from God was a Chick tract which showed the serious of natural disasters that occurred every time our President tried to or succeeded to force Israel into a compromise with it's enemies. Major hurricanes, I think Katrina was one of those...or Hugo, or both, then twelve out of season lightning storms sparking wildfires out west....all these real time events that were in the national news within 24 hours of the time our President tried to coerce Israel....9/11 was one of those events. I clearly remember watching the news of Bush's planned meeting with Israel to push them into a land-for-peace deal, I think it had to do with dividing Jerusalem at that time. I was unaware of anything related to the OP at that time, but when I saw in the news what Bush was planning, I knew it was not good....then I think it was day before, less than 24 hrs before that meeting was to take place that the Twin Towers were hit.

Then I saw some stuff comparing the events on 9/11 with how the Israelites responded to God's warning against them when He brought the Assyrians down on them as chastisement and warning. I remember one or two of our congressmen on TV quoting from Isa "the bricks are fallen, but we will replace them with hewn stone". As I watched that on t.v., I knew it wasn't right for those wicked politicians to be using the Bible that way. When the Jews said those things in response to the losses they suffered to the Assyrians, they were saying it in defiance declaring their own power instead of submitting themselves to God as He was warning them to do. Then they cut a stone out of the mountains of New York for the cornerstone to rebuild the Towers, exactly as the Jews had done in defiance against their enemies which was really defiance against God because He was using those enemies to humble Israel, trying to get them to turn back to Him.

In Isaiah, the defiant Jews continued (not quoting exactly, easy to find for anybody who is not too lazy so they just sit there saying it's only my opinion..I am talking easily documented historical facts and Biblical references...) "the sycamore tree is cut down, but we will replace it with Cedar" That's what the Jews said in defiance in Isaiah before God brought final judgment on them for them to go into the Babylonian captivity...and our Congressional leaders were shaking their fists saying the same things! And not only saying the same things, they actually did them! A Sycamore tree near the twin towers which was there when Washington and the national leaders dedicated the country to God was cut down by the fall of the Towers while the historical church was not damaged. The roots of that tree were taken up and made into a memorial which I believe is still standing ...I forget where...and they replaced that tree with Cedar!

The Towers fell on that Jewish holiday, and then seven years later on the same Jewish holiday, the stock market fell 777 points which was a 7 percent crash. These are facts, most of which I saw unfolding on the national TV news.

Now the blood moons, four of them with an eclipse I believe in the middle...and I believe it's the last one that is going to fall on that same Jewish holiday. Blood moon series are rare, and the historical events when they occurred are astounding. One of those was the restoration of Jerusalem to Israel as part of it's victory in the six day war. I think another occurred 1948-49 which is when Israel was established as a nation...the one back before then was a much larger time span back, I forget what happened on that one but it was significant.

It just seems pretty clear that God has been warning the USA to return to it's dedication and heed Washington's seemingly prophetic warning of dire consequences if we forsake God as a nation. More powerful dominions than the USA have fallen in one day, and if we don't fall by some kind of nuke, dirty bomb, biological attack, or EMP which is a real threat regardless of what scoffers might say....for crying out loud, they said it was a squirrel that chewed a wire and caused the blackout of New York and several other states. I was driving an 18 wheeler and luckily got off the Island just after the power went out and all the traffic lights were down as I crossed the bridge leaving the Island....just a squirrel! Even without an EMP, an orchestrated attack on a few key electrical power facilities can take down most or all of our grid for a good long time and plunge the nation into chaos and leave us pretty much defenseless.

The Bible says ALL nations will come against Israel. The USA is not going to be defending Israel at that time and all the signs are saying the USA will fall and no longer be the USA. My guess is that we will become either a province of China to whom we pretty much sold our future to, or we will become a member of the European Union, governed by the controllers of the Euro.

I'm not afraid, not stockpiling foods or weapons as I don't believe that will do any good for anybody. I will have enough food and water to last through the winter without power, but when things get bad people are going to be robbing each other to feed their children if martial law does not maintain order. We are losing our freedom to spread the gospel at will and not far from the day when Christians will be persecuted severely in America as they already are being persecuted for refusal to condone homosexual weddings in the messages they are asked to place on cakes and things like that.

We have killed enough babies by abortion to populate 25 states, the lower populated states of course, but that's a lot of territory. God is populating heaven with aborted babies while Christians are falling into apostacy and being keepers of the aquariums instead of fishers of men....

The signs are clear, God is warning America and as much as I hope nothing too bad happens in late September, I won't be surprised if it does.

So I went to the next post, since the thread was allegedly about the gospel and NOT the blood moons. Yet, here we have the blood moons, and not the gospel.

So far, the criticism against me has been unfounded.