The Parable of the Mustang

[hankroberts]

Oh, this is about marriage! I have been laboring under the delusion that it was some kind of screed against transgender persons.

Heh... If the parable fits...

 

[revanneosl]

The US Govt, and States, and Federal Supreme Courts are insisting on "pushing" gay marriage on us, all the while they are distancing themselves from EVERYTHING considered religious.

Well, MARRIAGE as it's been defined is a Religious Institution, one in which the govt, by their own words has no business participating or recognizing for legal purposes.

If we want, we can petition the court to NOT RECOGNIZE MARRIAGE at all, since it is after a HOLY UNION between man and woman.

Take it away from them, and force all unions to be civil ones, where the Holy Institution of Marriage is performed ceremoniously before God, but on paper as a civil union at the county clerks office.

If we want to win, it's our only chance.

At which point, only unholy apostate churches will ceremoniously perform gay marriages, and we can systematically eliminate/de-recognize them from the true BODY OF CHRIST.

My dear brother in Christ, you have set this up as a "we" vs. "them" situation, when many of your brothers and sisters in Christ are quite persuaded by scripture and by the witness of the Spirit that Holy Matrimony is intended by God to bless the lives of same-sex couples as it does opposite-sex couples. Indeed, you have gay & lesbian brothers and sisters in Christ, my cousin among them, who are married to their same-sex partners.

Please don't fall into "we" vs. "them".

 

[hankroberts]

First, let's be clear that there is no animosity toward homosexuals involved here. Homosexuals are sinners just like the rest of us; no more/no less.

Given that, then the issue regarding homosexuality in general is not "us vs. them" it is "what does God say about the issue". And the answer to that is both clear and unequivocal. What some men choose to do with that is between them and God.

The issue regarding marriage is also both clear and unequivocal: we know exactly what Marriage is, traditionally (or historically). And no homosexual union meets that criteria. We know exactly what a horse is, and no matter how much equivocation we try, a Ford Mustang simply is not a horse.

 

[tulc]

First, let's be clear that there is no animosity toward homosexuals involved here. Homosexuals are sinners just like the rest of us; no more/no less.

Given that, then the issue regarding homosexuality in general is not "us vs. them" it is "what does God say about the issue". And the answer to that is both clear and unequivocal. What some men choose to do with that is between them and God.

The issue regarding marriage is also both clear and unequivocal: we know exactly what Marriage is, traditionally (or historically). And no homosexual union meets that criteria. We know exactly what a horse is, and no matter how much equivocation we try, a Ford Mustang simply is not a horse.

Wait...so this is about marriage not cars?
tulc(thinks the OP makes even less sense now!)

 

[hankroberts]

Wait...so this is about marriage not cars?
tulc(thinks the OP makes even less sense now!)

No, it's just about cars ... and horses, don't forget the horses. Never mind; just go back to sleep.

 

[JLR1300]

The government can do whatever it wants. If it wants to pretend that an abomination is a marriage we can't stop them. However, churches don't have to recognize those abominations as marriages. God knows that those aren't real marriages in His sight and so do we. Even now the government says that gambling and pornography are acceptable but we know that they are not. The government of Las Vegas says that prostitution is acceptable but as Christians we know that it isn't.

The end is coming fast anyway. Before long Christ will come again and all those who have supported the abomination of homosexual "marriage" and other such ungodly things will be thrown into hell and destroyed. Those Judas' who "kiss" Christ and claim to be followers while betraying Him with advocating abominations will suffer the most. Jesus commended the believers in Revelation 2 and said "I know your works, your labor and your patience, and that you cannot bear those who are evil. And you have tested those who say they are Apostles, and they are not, and have found them LIARS."

 

[tulc]

The government can do whatever it wants. If it wants to pretend that an abomination is a marriage we can't stop them. However, churches don't have to recognize those abominations as marriages. God knows that those aren't real marriages in His sight and so do we. Even now the government says that gambling and pornography are acceptable but we know that they are not. The government of Las Vegas says that prostitution is acceptable but as Christians we know that it isn't.

The end is coming fast anyway. Before long Christ will come again and all those who have supported the abomination of homosexual "marriage" and other such ungodly things will be thrown into hell and destroyed. Those Judas' who "kiss" Christ and claim to be followers while betraying Him with advocating abominations will suffer the most. Jesus commended the believers in Revelation 2 and said "I know your works, your labor and your patience, and that you cannot bear those who are evil. And you have tested those who say they are Apostles, and they are not, and have found them LIARS."

...or we wont be.
tulc(suspects JLR1300 knows Gods heart, mind and plans no better then anyone else on Earth does)

 

[Almighty's humble servant]

...or we wont be.
tulc(suspects JLR1300 knows Gods heart, mind and plans no better then anyone else on Earth does)

Seems he knows God's Word, which is our only physical link to His heart and mind.

The Holy Spirit speaks directly to our hearts and minds, and the voice of truth tells us to trust in the Word of God for guidance during these tough times.

Is the end coming tomorrow?
I should certainly hope not, but if it were to, I pray my confused brothers and sisters who live in perpetual unrepentant sin of same sex relationship, turn from it now, soas they don't take part in the judgement SURE to come from those our Beloved specifically will say "Depart from me you workers of iniquity, I never even knew you."

 

[hankroberts]

I suspect we're getting close to the limits established on the forum regarding the issue of the morality of homosexual behavior. I'm certainly comfortable with that discussion but we should respect the limits set.

 

[tulc]

I suspect we're getting close to the limits established on the forum regarding the issue of the morality of homosexual behavior. I'm certainly comfortable with that discussion but we should respect the limits set.

OK.
tulc(is off to find more coffee!)

 

[hankroberts]

American police have killed 183 people this year

We tend to forget the rest of the story...

According to statistics collected by the FBI, 95 law enforcement officers were killed in line-of-duty incidents in 2012. In addition, 52,901 officers were victims of line-of-duty assaults.

And of the arrest-related deaths in that same year, 97% were deemed legal and justifiable, or not due to any officer misconduct, by independent investigation (often either Grand Jury or independent investigators appointed outside the agency).

FBI statistics...

 

[tulc]

We tend to forget the rest of the story...

According to statistics collected by the FBI, 95 law enforcement officers were killed in line-of-duty incidents in 2012. In addition, 52,901 officers were victims of line-of-duty assaults.

And of the arrest-related deaths in that same year, 97% were deemed legal and justifiable, or not due to any officer misconduct, by independent investigation (often either Grand Jury or independent investigators appointed outside the agency).

FBI statistics...

wrong thread?
tulc(has had that happen before)

 

[hankroberts]

Certainly off topic, if that's what you mean. But it was pointed at the statement in your signature block, which I quoted.

 

[tulc]

Certainly off topic, if that's what you mean. But it was pointed at the statement in your signature block, which I quoted.

Uhmmm...my sig isn't what this thread is about.
tulc(found more coffee!)

 

[hankroberts]

Uhmmm...my sig isn't what this thread is about.

Well, that is indeed true.

Which doesn't change the fact that the comment calls for some perspective.

 

[tulc]

Well, that is indeed true.

Which doesn't change the fact that the comment calls for some perspective.

not in this thread it doesn't.
tulc(just a thought)

 

[hankroberts]

Misrepresentative comments call for a response of perspective, where ever they are.

 

[TheChristianSurvivalGuide]

Hank, this is the thread that tulc started about that issue:http://www.christianforums.com/t7866446/

 

[StephanieSomer]

We tend to forget the rest of the story...

According to statistics collected by the FBI, 95 law enforcement officers were killed in line-of-duty incidents in 2012. In addition, 52,901 officers were victims of line-of-duty assaults.

And of the arrest-related deaths in that same year, 97% were deemed legal and justifiable, or not due to any officer misconduct, by independent investigation (often either Grand Jury or independent investigators appointed outside the agency).

FBI statistics...

So the murder of police in their line of work justifies their abuse of power and allows them to kill indiscriminately??

If you deny that, then your post is irrelevant, because one has nothing to do with the other.

 

[revanneosl]

Maybe this thread would be better if it were about pancakes.