What Would Evidence for God's Existence Be Like?

[yesyoushould]

I've never read that part. Believe in God or be damned? Is that why you believe? Out of fear of condemnation? And who is this God that I must believe in for fear of retribution?

We fear God because He is all. Even the devil bows before God.

We fear God with joy, because He is our joy.

There is no damnation in the hearts of those that believe in joy, for the joy of God is everywhere.

You believe in love for another, you believe in God, for God is love.

 

[xXLoveisGodXx]

That is a bunch of fluff with no reason.
God is perfect and none can debate it, only doubt it.
You either believe in God or as the Word says, "are damned".
Easy.

"Believe in God or your damned."

That last sentence is important. That's what you felt as an atheist. Don't assume that it applies to every other atheist.

I apologized for this already. You are the fourth to say something.

 

[Ken-1122]

That does not address my question: In what way is belief a conscious choice?

Can you, right now, decide that gods are nothing more than characters in books? And then tomorrow morning, become Muslim for a week?

Excellent point! Belief happens after reason and logic demands it; not before.

Ken

 

[Ken-1122]

What does becoming muslim have to do with God? It doesn't.

Accept that you exist and rejoice in the joy of life.

The point of the question is not about muslim and God, it is about choosing to believe.

Ken

 

[Archaeopteryx]

I apologized for this already. You are the fourth to say something.

Sorry, I didn't see your apology before commenting. But good to know anyway.

 

[yesyoushould]

The point of the question is not about muslim and God, it is about choosing to believe.

Ken

Surely you believe in good. But now I have some new news for you. All that is bad, is a lie.

 

[xXLoveisGodXx]

We fear God because He is all. Even the devil bows before God.

We fear God with joy, because He is our joy.

There is no damnation in the hearts of those that believe in joy, for the joy of God is everywhere.

You believe in love for another, you believe in God, for God is

The first line makes no sense at all. It's laughable. The second line starts to go somewhere, but then ends in left field. The final line I believe is true.

Dude, how can you say that God is Love after saying that he will damn you if you don't believe in Him? Doesn't that cause some kind of conflict in your mind?
Those with children will have the advantage here...
Would you sentence your child to eternal damnation simply because he doesn't believe in you? Doesn't sound very loving to me.
Additionally, which God do you speak of? You are mixing concepts of the Hebrew god with the God of Christ(Love).
Let me pose a scenario,

A child is born to an Islamic extremist in Afghanistan. He is taught the beliefs of his parents for ten years. At age 10 he is then told that he must prove his faith by strapping a bomb to his chest and blowing up those people that he believes are evil. Now he is standing before God at the throne of judgement.
What happens next?

 

[xXLoveisGodXx]

Let me add to that^^^
When the bomb exploded it killed 23 Christians that were there as missionaries.

 

[yesyoushould]

Dude, how can you say that God is Love after saying that he will damn you if you don't believe in Him? Doesn't that cause some kind of conflict in your mind?
?

You are suggesting that God damns.
Choosing to reject God is a choice.

God actually is Love.

 

[xXLoveisGodXx]

What?
Are you a child?

 

[yesyoushould]

What?
Are you a child?

One must be a child to enter into heaven.

 

[Ken-1122]

Surely you believe in good. But now I have some new news for you. All that is bad, is a lie.

It's not that simple. Good and bad are subjective. What is good for one person is often bad for another person. To say what is true for one person is a lie for another is a lie.

Ken

 

[xXLoveisGodXx]

You are suggesting that God damns.
Choosing to reject God is a choice.

God actually is Love.

No, YOU suggested that God damns. Your posts don't make sense. You are not answering any questions, you are just making random statements. If you are a child then I understand and give you props for standing up for your beliefs. However, this is a very advanced discussion and I don't feel that you are helping the case for Christianity.
If you are an adult, then stop doing a political song and dance and have a real conversation. You can start by responding to my scenario.

 

[yesyoushould]

It's not that simple. Good and bad are subjective. What is good for one person is often bad for another person. To say what is true for one person is a lie for another is a lie.

Ken

Of course it isn't simple. It is true. Only do good for others and all are blessed.

Surely you know the difference between good and bad.

 

[stevevw]

That is a bunch of fluff with no reason.
God is perfect and none can debate it, only doubt it.
You either believe in God or as the Word says, "are damned".
Easy.

"Believe in God or your damned."

Sorry you must have misunderstood what I am saying. I dont doubt Gods existence. What I believe in God is based on faith and cannot be proven by the way science wants the evidence of whether something is true or not. I am talking about how evolutionists can also have a degree of faith in what they believe. They will promote the consensus of opinion without really having solid backup because they believe its true no matter what.

 

[yesyoushould]

No, YOU suggested that God damns. Your posts don't make sense. You are not answering any questions, you are just making random statements. If you are a child then I understand and give you props for standing up for your beliefs. However, this is a very advanced discussion and I don't feel that you are helping the case for Christianity.
If you are an adult, then stop doing a political song and dance and have a real conversation. You can start by responding to my scenario.

Yes sir. I said all who do not believe in God are damned. God is love. We all believe in love, it is good. Who possibly doesn't believe in love? That is another thread perhaps.

All that believe in God are children. It is scripture. Matthew 18:3

You have no need to doubt me, God already judges me and He is very thorough, lol.

He loves you and you need not worry. None of you need worry, for God is fully aware of all that is happening.

 

[xXLoveisGodXx]

One must be a child to enter into heaven.

Oh my. Are you Confucius now? Are you really an atheist trying to make Christians look stupid?! What's with you dude?

You should stick to God is Love and be loving to others. Don't start condemning people because you have no idea what you're talking about.

You are wrong to promote fear in God. Do you fear love! Can you even hear yourself typing?

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Sorry you must have misunderstood what I am saying. I dont doubt Gods existence. What I believe in God is based on faith and cannot be proven by the way science wants the evidence of whether something is true or not. I am talking about how evolutionists can also have a degree of faith in what they believe. They will promote the consensus of opinion without really having solid backup because they believe its true no matter what.

First, "evolutionists" do have solid backup, which is why faith isn't required. Second, we don't believe in evolution "no matter what." If the evidence were to turn against it, we would reconsider it.

 

[xXLoveisGodXx]

First, "evolutionists" do have solid backup, which is why faith isn't required. Second, we don't believe in evolution "no matter what." If the evidence were to turn against it, we would reconsider it.

I don't believe you. I can disprove evolution in one step.

Darwin suggests that all life started as single celled organism and them slowly evolved into all the species we know and love today.
Correct?
If that were true, we would expect to see a fossil record that shows this. One-two- three, etc, millions. Right?
Why then do the oldest fossil records show the complete opposite? If you're really open to evidence, start doing your research. The information is out there.
After that, try to explain the evolution of a giraffe.

 

[Ken-1122]

Of course it isn't simple. It is true. Only do good for others and all are blessed.

Surely you know the difference between good and bad.

Of course I know the difference between good and bad, but as I said what we call good and bad are subjective. Let me give you an example; when the housing market crashed a few years ago, and the price of houses dropped dramatically; that was bad for the people who needed to sell their homes, but good for the people who were looking to buy a home.
You can't assume what is good for one person is good for everybody.

K