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Do not “Aggree to Dissagree” and be of one mind.

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“Let’s agree to disagree”

How often do you here that? I have heard it one to many times and I hate it. If two people have two different ideas about one topic we now have two sides. This is two minds.

Two minds leads to confusion. How much confusion is there? Let us be honest, confusion runs rampant among the people. Now confusion amongst the church is wild. That’s why we have flavours;
Pick your flavour, what suits you?

This is not one mind this is many; hence the denominations and even still, we have segmented minds within.
Segmentation leads to what?
It leads to grudges, altercations and disagreements.
This spreads like wild fire and Satan knows it. So why is it so prevalent, this segmentation?
Because Satan is real and he is set out to do just this, “Let us agree to disagree”.

Who is the author of confusion?

1 Cor 14: 33
For God is not the author of confusion

So we must be. Remember the story of babel how thy tried to build a tower to the heavens?
Their arrogance and pride was a result of their confusion, yes God split languages up but not because he wanted to but because men thought they were better than God.

Can Satan lead us into confusion? I have no doubt.
So how do we stay out of confusion?

Psalm 71
In thee, O Lord, do I put my trust: let me never be put to confusion.


Trusting in God and not man is a good start.

Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
Abstain from all appearance of evil.
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

So prove all things, read the word of God and if something does not run sound to it, then that something is something you must come out of. If someone tells you doctrine, do not swallow it like you will die if you do not believe what you’re told. Anything a man has to say has to be tested. I do not care who you are as long as you have blood running through your veins, you’re eligible to spread a lie. Yes this goes for me too. Do not be fooled by learned or educated men, men like Desiderius Erasmus can also make mistakes.
If a man is of great renown; his input is of no greater value than a homeless guy down the street.
There is one perfect authority and this is the Word of God.
It is so easy to think we have “Elites” in this world we must bow down to.
So easy to accept what a person of higher authority tells us.
To God he is worthless.
If he has not God Jesus he is the living dead and is brought to nothing.
Through Jesus we are made alive.

Anything an “Elite” has to say is earthy. Unless he knows Jesus he has Earthy information that will fade away with his dead corpse.
Some of the greatest scientists in history have been made redundant because of so called NEW Science that is more convincing.
Nickola Tesla was a very smart man who is acknowledged by whom?
Billy Graham, a worldwide evangelist known by many is now a washed out old man who has tainted and compromised his teachings of faith because of the ways of this world.

We are all going to die, what and who we are will fade into the blissful pile of naught.
In a thousand years we will probably be considered by the future race to be Evolutionary monkey men we think our ancients are.

There is one man you can trust in who will never fade away, the Lord Jesus.
The Bible is 6000 years old and going strong! Why? Because some washed out old men like Moses wrote it?
No, because the Great I AM wrote it and he is alive today.
He knows how to write a book and man does not. Better yet God speaks through his book.


Here are some verses about double minds.

A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:

Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.

That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

There is much instruction from God for us to be of one mind. So we are not to agree to disagree. If you need an answer or have a problem with something then search out the scriptures and find the final truth.

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So,….calling Billy Graham a washed out old man is your ideal of being loving, polite, courteous…..did you know Billy started out at 10 yrs. old going with his dad to a whorehouse and watched his dad lead a dying prostitute to Christ just before she died…? There are things I don't agree with concerning Billy, but he has done more in the Kingdom than I ever have for me to call him a washed out old man and pick him to rail on. We ALL have our faults….or you can just agree to disagree.
 
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Billy Graham was a great evangelist (not necessarily a teacher, and he seemed to recognize that as he moved forward). God used him mightily in reaching a multitude of people --masses worldwide; and to reach those in high places in government and even religious circles. He was faithful in the work God gave him to do --even more than most servants do. He will be rewarded for that.

For the sake of CF site we need to "agree to disagree" after we have shared our views and understandings; and we should not attack anyone. We may be highly convinced of our views, and if we are true believers in the Lord Jesus Christ, we can know we will answer to God and have our understandings perfected when we get home in Heaven.
 
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I do not think you know Billies heart. Billy aggrees with evolution and says you can find Jesus through what ever religion.

For the sake of the CF site you will forsake the word of God and this is fruitless waste.
What first?
Jesus or Cf?

You can not just lay up the excuse, when I am dead we are perfect, while we live we strive for perfection.

Philippians 1:21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain

All our answers are written in the word of God and we do not need to agree to disagree.
We need to strive and search. Be vigilant and gut out the word of GOd. WE need to apply it to our life and be of one mind, not two milion minds.

One mind in Christ, NO COMPRIMISE.
 
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In other words anyone not agreeing with you and "your" interpretation of things is against God and we can't be as good as you. What about anyone you come across that doesn't agree with what you may think the scriptures are saying…..in your eyes they would be wrong, guess you can't ever be wrong that way, nor be able to learn anything…..if only we could be as great as you, guess I'll just have to strive harder in self righteousness.

Agree to disagree is a way for 2 people to be at peace and stop fighting, neither is gaining any ground convincing the other. Paul and Barnabas couldn't agree with each other concerning Mark…..neither was against God, both were full of the Holy Ghost and power. Both continued in the work of God, both succeeded in what they were doing. In the end by both of them disagreeing with each other Mark was not shoved into another situation where he would of failed, but with Barnabas he matured and the day came when he was able to serve Paul in his work. Just because someone doesn't see eye to eye with you in all things doesn't mean they are not serving God…..but how so ever ye judge one another so shall ye be judged.
 
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You can take it that way if you wish. I would not recommend it, as I am a human who can make mistakes and if you read the post I made you would of understood and not made your ignorant accusation on me like this.

Now do you think I am The Catholic POPE?

Do honestly think I am the mouth of God?
Your a fool to think that.

You know it is not to hard to draw the correct interpretation from the bible, all you have to do is ask GOd to guide and show you the answers, he does.

It is quite amazing.
You do not need me to show you them you can actually read the word of GOd and ask him to show you, he will..

Have I come accross people I disaggree with, yes of course. Those people are the ones spewing what their told...

Not what God tells them, it is quite sad...

Do I start a dispute with them, not always and if I do it is futile, like now with you...

You do not know me yet you have already concluded and judged me as some one who think they know it all.

Thanks for your judgement, the word of GOd tells you not to do that...

Are you going to deny that to?

Thats a nice little analogy about Paul and Barnabas but if you read the article I was referring more so to false doctrines and denominations.



Ah so your calling me self righteousness now, why thank you so much for that encouraging judgement also!

Beautiful edification, thank you!

Aggree to disaggree is a way to have two minds and confusion.


If your authority is the word of God then you have the high ground, is that hard to understand?

Thanks for enforcing your ignorant judgement stance once again, cheers, dragin man.

Why do you call yourself dragon gunner?

You gunning down dragins? THe ones Jesus told us to love? Ha...
 
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So,….calling Billy Graham a washed out old man is your ideal of being loving, polite, courteous…..did you know Billy started out at 10 yrs. old going with his dad to a whorehouse and watched his dad lead a dying prostitute to Christ just before she died…? There are things I don't agree with concerning Billy, but he has done more in the Kingdom than I ever have for me to call him a washed out old man and pick him to rail on. We ALL have our faults….or you can just agree to disagree.

It means to be aged. Maybe you see it as derogatory,I mean Old and forgotten.

The word of God says be of one mind not two, we are to aggree on his word.
We are not to have two different views.

One mind.
 
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The word of God says be of one mind not two, we are to aggree on his word.
We are not to have two different views.

One mind.

How does that work? Do you just agree with everything I say? What if we both search the scriptures as people have done for centuries and we arrive at two opposite conclusions? As an example, look at the free will vs predestination argument.
 
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Good question how does it work.
Well it takes much prayer and fasting. Much searching.
You have to know there is way to much junk out there right?

To often pastors or who ever will go to Un Godly writings like the Book of Enoch and use that to justify and already false doctrine.

Yes free will and pre des is certainly a topic of confusion but if one searches the scritures enough you can come to a final answer on that.

One mind comes from the word of God!
 
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This whole "agree to disagree" thing is so much easier said than done. I've alienated one person already because of it and might alienate another :(

Agree to disagree is so easy. Just do it and have an easy life but we as followers of Jesus, are we called to have an easy life?

Jesus said they hated me before they hated you.

If you lose friends, if people hate you because you speak up for God, then expect it.

Gods by your side from start to end. Your friend might not be.
God will be, so do not lose faith!
Hold on and be strong!

You believe it then you live it! Do not be cowardice be strong to the end. Jesus gives us the crown of life!
 
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Good question how does it work.
Well it takes much prayer and fasting. Much searching.
You have to know there is way to much junk out there right?

To often pastors or who ever will go to Un Godly writings like the Book of Enoch and use that to justify and already false doctrine.

Yes free will and pre des is certainly a topic of confusion but if one searches the scritures enough you can come to a final answer on that.

One mind comes from the word of God!

It is a 1600 year old argument. It hasn't been settled yet. Not being of one mind on details keeps us searching. If we all agreed on everything, we'd start thinking that we fully know the mind of God so we must be Gods ourselves.

As long as we agree that we need Jesus, then we agree on all that matters.
 
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It is a 1600 year old argument. It hasn't been settled yet. Not being of one mind on details keeps us searching. If we all agreed on everything, we'd start thinking that we fully know the mind of God so we must be Gods ourselves.

As long as we agree that we need Jesus, then we agree on all that matters.

I believe there is answer to that topic and of course it is written in the bible.
The problem is this, new generations and new minds.
Bible versions are an issue too, I will not go into this.

Personally I do not believe we are string puppets, I do believe we have a free will and I tink it meant something when God said let us make man in our image.

I do think Adam chose to disobey God and I also think we now choose to disobey God, this I say is our free will to sin.

It is very indepth and it takes hours of discussion and talk on various scripture.

Desiderius Erasmus believed we had free choice.
Do you know who is?
If not here inlies half the issue of new generations forgetting....

I wrote a blog on pre destination if you care to read???

Predestination, are we Gods string puppets? |

Having one mind just means we are all thinking soundly to Gods word as best we can.

Pre des of course is a topic, I do not think one mind can be found on.
Not with out much prayer.

Only God can do this.
 
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There are several things in the Bible that make me believe that one truth is more important than any other... In this context, it may mean that we are supposed to agree about this one truth.

I'll keep my list short to not veer off-topic
- Jesus told us in Matthew 22:37-29 that loving God and loving our neighbors were the two most important commandments
- David... he did many things wrong, but he did one major thing right: he had perfect faith in God
- Jesus telling the man next to him on the cross that he would be with him in paradise when all he had done was say he believed Jesus was innocent

I wonder if by being of one mind, God doesn't expect us to be able to agree on so many things... But it is vitally important that we agree to put Him before anything else.

We may say all Christians are doing that. We may start to complain about people just saying they believe and going through none of the motions... but how many of us are really putting God first in our lives? This is a full time job in itself.
 
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Yes putting God first in our life, in Everything we do. Not just here and there when we see fit but ever where possible is the beginning to one mind.

When we start sacrificing our idols (Sport/ Movies) and putting God there instead

WE ARE ONE STEP CLOSER TO A SINGLE MIND!
 
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Yes putting God first in our life, in Everything we do. Not just here and there when we see fit but ever where possible is the beginning to one mind.

When we start sacrificing our idols (Sport/ Movies) and putting God there instead

WE ARE ONE STEP CLOSER TO A SINGLE MIND!


So now I have to agree to be of one mind with you that a movie or ballgame is a idol people sacrifice to? You now claim Sports an Movie are idols……now who is being ignorant…..?
 
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I agree to disagree with the OP.

Why, because it better not to argue and argue when two people think that they are hearing from God that they are right. One of us could be right or both of us could be wrong, but to continue arguing about something is not the way to go about it. Besides, arguing ad nauseum causes me headaches and the last thing I want is a headache. So agreeing to disagree is the polite way to say that I will respect your belief and I hope you will respect my belief even if I disagree with yours.
 
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I think, Dragonrunner, that the OP is simply trying to say that Jesus should come first and people's lives. I'll admit that I lived as a "Christian" for many years without even realizing that I was putting other things first, like my schoolwork, my writing and...other things I regret. So that's what he means--to put God first. That's probably what being of one mind is about, too.
 
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So now I have to agree to be of one mind with you that a movie or ballgame is a idol people sacrifice to? You now claim Sports an Movie are idols……now who is being ignorant…..?

Personally, I do not believe that a movie or ball game in itself is an idol, but that anything in life can become an idol if it becomes too important to us. We think idols have to be other gods or sins and may let other things like our jobs, our families, the opinions of others, hobbies, and interests grow to be more important to us than God. This puts us too rooted in earthly things.
 
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