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Interracial marriages on the rise, but social stigmas persist

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CaDan

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You are mistaken on a few key points. Ruth was of Moab and therefore was a Hebrew (being of Lot, nephew of Abraham). She was not an Israelite for she was not of Isaac and Jacob.

Our Saviour's earthly lineage is directly from Adam and Eve to Mary. No mixes on the way.

You know who else was a child of Abraham? Ishmael.
 
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[serious];66407071 said:
I assume he's approaching it from a perspective of "Irish became white when they entered the middle class" perspective. There is certainly an argument to be made there.

Well, I don't know that the US ever considered Irish non-white, but there certainly has been a difference in how races are defined over times and places.

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1. We are all one IN CHRIST JESUS. We are then one spiritually but we are not all one race.

2. We should have a beef in marrying non-Christians if they despise God and will not consider becoming a child of God...the One True God!

3. The new covenant didn't change God's Words. Only one seeks to change God's laws:

Words of Christ:
Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Prophesy concerning Satan:
Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
4. The argument with "plants" is one in which I ask you to see the meaning figuratively. What does "earth, seed, trees" etc. symbolize? A clue:

Isaiah 55:12 For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands.

What is the role of the Law? I don't think you know exactly and it is mucking up your entire theology and/or philosophy of other people.
 
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Our Saviour's earthly lineage is directly from Adam and Eve to Mary. No mixes on the way.

What an incredibly meaningless statement. According to the Bible, isn't everyone's earthly lineage directly from Adam and Eve to their mother?
 
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No, everyone's lineage is not directly from them.

All righty, then -- how does someone, Biblically speaking of course, not have a lineage back to Adam and Eve?
 
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The Bible mentions nothing about race, so using the Bible to say that is changing the meaning of the text to suite your prejudices.


Biblical nations speak of various races. I would add....
Jeremiah 13:23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.
There are Caucasian, Ethiopian, Asian, etc....many nations. There are no prejudices for they are simply realities.
 
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All righty, then -- how does someone, Biblically speaking of course, not have a lineage back to Adam and Eve?



Mankind was created. On the sixth day God said it was very good. Mankind is inclusive of all man....red, yellow, black and white...all precious in His sight.

Then...after God's day of rest Adam was formed. A specific man for a specific purpose. From him would come the Saviour. The Bible is about the story of Jesus Christ and His family from Adam to Mary in a direct line. It is His-story...not that of man.

Humanity was here before Adam made his appearance. Knowing that answers many questions. Once that is absorbed your follow-up question may concern Noah and the flood.
 
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Pretty sure this is a known heresy.

Paging the TAW Special Investigations Unit!



Rather than tattling...you should try to understand for..it is written.


Editing in...if you see anything not covered in Scripture then you would have a case. Have you?
 
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Mankind was created. On the sixth day God said it was very good. Mankind is inclusive of all man....red, yellow, black and white...all precious in His sight.

Then...after God's day of rest Adam was formed. A specific man for a specific purpose. From him would come the Saviour. The Bible is about the story of Jesus Christ and His family from Adam to Mary in a direct line. It is His-story...not that of man.

Humanity was here before Adam made his appearance. Knowing that answers many questions. Once that is absorbed your follow-up question may concern Noah and the flood.

Actually, my follow-up question is: If what you say is so, does that mean the Bible is wrong when it describes Adam as the first man?

And then there's the issue of sin -- for if Adam was not the progenitor of the human race, why is it then that those not of his line were afflicted with the punishments of sin?
 
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Biblical nations speak of various races. I would add....
Jeremiah 13:23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.
There are Caucasian, Ethiopian, Asian, etc....many nations. There are no prejudices for they are simply realities.
He's talking about skin, that's not race. Likewise, you can't change your hair color. Nations are not races. Race is a made up idea.
 
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Actually, my follow-up question is: If what you say is so, does that mean the Bible is wrong when it describes Adam as the first man?


The Bible is never wrong. :) Adam was the first man with a living soul and the first man in the line to Christ. As I said, it is His-story.



And then there's the issue of sin -- for if Adam was not the progenitor of the human race, why is it then that those not of his line were afflicted with the punishments of sin?


I don't know. Perhaps they had to account for their sins and the arrival of Adam and family showed them a better way. The Adamic line, the chosen...were chosen for a purpose, one of which was to hear God's Word, protect God's Word, teach God's Word....for humanity.
 
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The Bible is never wrong. :) Adam was the first man with a living soul and the first man in the line to Christ. As I said, it is His-story.

And yet according to you, there are people who are descended not from Adam and Eve... meaning their ancestors didn't have souls? When did they get them, then?

I don't know. Perhaps they had to account for their sins and the arrival of Adam and family showed them a better way.

Sounds like Adam had one job, and he blew it.

The Adamic line, the chosen...were chosen for a purpose, one of which was to hear God's Word, protect God's Word, teach God's Word....for humanity.

Ah, "the chosen...." Do you consider yourself of this line?
 
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The simple fact is there is no Biblical basis for race because race is not Biblical. If you try to define race by skin color, then, for example, what makes Australians and Africans the same besides skin tone? Everything else is different about them, so obviously it's not just skin. We see the same thing for hair and eye color. In addition, there has been so much migration and mating between humans of different "races" that there is no real distinction except for the one in your mind.
 
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Hey here's a thought.... If anyone is bothered by interracial marriages then they have the freedom to simply marry someone of their own race.... How's about that?

And the people who don't mind it can marry whoever they want?

I'm just spitballing here but I think this could work.
 
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