Thank you PsychoSarah and thank you Mark for bringing us together in this formal debate on the problem of evil.
The problem of evil, hereafter referred to as PoE, is one argument against the existence of God that atheists have at their disposal. Broadly speaking, it is aimed at disproving the existence of the God of Christianity who Christians claim is both omnipotent and omnibenevolent.
There are two primary ways of looking at the PoE.
1. As an intellectual problem. One who claims it as such might say something like: I think it is
irrational that God would permit suffering and evil.
2. As an emotional problem. One who claims it as such might say something like: I dont
like a God who would permit suffering and evil.
Since my opponent will be defending a version of the intellectual PoE, let us examine two ways in which it can be formulated:
1. As a
deductive argument which seeks to show that God and evil are logically incompatible and that therefore it is
impossible that God and evil could co-exist. This formulation is referred to as the logical or internal version.
2. As an
inductive argument which seeks to show that the co-existence of God and evil is
improbable. This formulation is referred to as the probabilistic or the external version.
Since my opponent made clear which version and formulation she was defending in her opening by saying:
All observations of the universe suggest that a being which is both all powerful and all benevolent couldn't possibly exist. Sure, a being with one of those traits or the other could, as a purely all powerful being might not have the motivation to end suffering, and a purely all benevolent one might not have the ability to end suffering. But it stands to reason in a universe which contains suffering a being with both the ability to end suffering and the motivation to do it couldn't possibly exist.
It is clear she is saying that evil and a God who is omnibenevolent and omnipotent could not
possibly co-exist. Thus she is defending the deductive, logical version of the intellectual argument from the PoE.
Now what
must my opponent do in order to show that God and evil could not
possibly co-exist?
First let us start by saying that there is no explicit contradiction between the propositions:
1. An omnipotent, omnibenevolent God exists
And
2. Evil and suffering exists.
There is no
explicit contradiction between the two. (2) is not the negation of (1) nor is it the contradictory of (1). So she cannot prove them logically incompatible that way. So if my opponent still desires to maintain that the two are logically incompatible, there must be some underlying or
hidden assumptions or premises that would serve to bring out the implicit contradiction and make it explicit.
But what are these assumptions? Well, she touched on them in the paragraph I quoted above. The hidden assumptions are:
1. If God is omnipotent, He can create any world He wants.
2. If God is omnibenevolent, then He prefers a world without suffering and evil.
Now, in order to prove that it is
impossible that God and evil could co-exist, these two propositions must be
necessarily true.
This point is important so I will say it again:
In order for PsychoSarah to show that there is no logically possible world wherein God and evil co-exist, she must show that these two assumptions are
necessarily true. This is to simply say that it is not
possible that these two assumptions could be false.
Now one can begin to see the eeeeeenoooormous burden she has just taken on here.
Now after reviewing her opening post, I found no argument or reason she gave for thinking either of the above assumptions is
necessarily true, let alone
both. So rather than attack strawmen, I will let her respond to this in her next post.
In fact, to spare my opponent the trouble, I can go ahead and demonstrate why the first assumption above is not necessarily true, which is all that would be needed to completely dissolve the entire argument.
If it is
possible that God created human beings as free moral agents with libertarian free will, then it is not necessarily true that God can create any world He desires for in any possible world God could actualize with free moral agents, it is possible the moral agents freely choose to commit evil.
From the
Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophys article on the topic:
"
Since the logical problem of evil claims that it is logically impossible for God and evil to co-exist, all that Plantinga (or any other theist) needs to do to combat this claim is to describe a possible situation in which God and evil co-exist. That situation doesnt need to be actual or even realistic. Plantinga doesnt need to have a single shred of evidence supporting the truth of his suggestion. All he needs to do is give a logically consistent description of a way that God and evil can co-exist. Plantinga claims God and evil could co-exist if God had a morally sufficient reason for allowing evil. He suggests that Gods morally sufficient reason might have something to do with humans being granted morally significant free will and with the greater goods this freedom makes possible. All that Plantinga needs to claim on behalf of (MSR1) and (MSR2) is that they are logically possible (that is, not contradictory).
Does Plantingas Free Will Defense succeed in describing a possible state of affairs in which God has a morally sufficient reason for allowing evil? It certainly seems so. In fact, it appears that even the most hardened atheist must admit that (MSR1) and (MSR2) are possible reasons God might have for allowing moral and natural evil. They may not represent Gods actual reasons, but for the purpose of blocking the logical problem of evil, it is not necessary that Plantinga discover Gods actual reasons.
Here (MSR1) stands for Morally sufficient reason 1 and is:
(MSR1) Gods creation of persons with morally significant free will is something of tremendous value. God could not eliminate much of the evil and suffering in this world without thereby eliminating the greater good of having created persons with free will with whom he could have relationships and who are able to love one another and do good deeds.
To conclude, I will allow the the author of the article in the Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy on this topic to sum up my position:
"Since (MSR1) and (MSR2) together seem to show contra the claims of the logical problem of evil how it is possible for God and (moral and natural) evil to co-exist, it seems that the Free Will Defense successfully defeats the logical problem of evil." -
Logical Problem of Evil [Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy]
I.E.P. Article Author Information
James R. Beebe
Email: beebe at yahoo dot com
University at Buffalo
U. S. A.