Important Facts about Evolution

[Loudmouth]

Are you saying atheist are honest people devoted to truth that have empirical evidence to prove the non-existence of God? By the way did you get a chance to read this?

And now you are trying to cover up the lies by changing the subject and using a tu quoque fallacy.

Why is that? Why are creationists continually jumping from one lie to another lie, trying to pretend that they haven't lied?

 

[Loudmouth]

Clarification: neanderthals did not evolve into humans and nobody says they did.

Neanderthals were once considered a possible candidate as a direct ancestor of modern humans because of the objective fossil evidence.

 

[BL2KTN]

Yes, but did not turn out to be the case.

 

[crazyforgod1212]

And now you are trying to cover up the lies by changing the subject and using a tu quoque fallacy.

Why is that? Why are creationists continually jumping from one lie to another lie, trying to pretend that they haven't lied?

Darwinists are the only liars, here.

Debunking Evolution - problems between the theory and reality; the false science of evolution

 

[Loudmouth]

Yes, but did not turn out to be the case.

Correct, and that is because we continued to follow the objective evidence. With creationism, they start with the conclusion, ignore any evidence that contradicts their conclusion, and then lie about the evidence.

 

[BL2KTN]

And another one hops in, changes the subject, throws a stupid link out there, and runs for the door.

 

[Dizredux]

And another one hops in, changes the subject, throws a stupid link out there, and runs for the door.

Yep, hops in, dumps his load, and hops out. Kinda like a pigeon on a chess board.

Dizredux

 

[toolmanjantzi]

Care to actually back up these allegations? Are you saying that the conclusion of humans evolving from neanderthals was not based on objective evidence? If so, back it up. Every paper that I read referred to fossil evidence which is objective.

Did the Neanderthal breed with humans? Or did the humans breed with Neanderthals? I'm talking about the consistency amongst Evolution in general. Anything I would use to back up any claims was written by men.

 

[toolmanjantzi]

Clarification: neanderthals did not evolve into humans and nobody says they did. Neanderthals bred with their coexisting human cousins, but were eventually wiped out with their last pockets of existence ceasing about 20,000 years ago.

Maybe it was 4000 years ago in a flood, that brought up sediment fossils that were older and mixed with the bodies of "Men of renown" during the flood of Genesis.

 

[toolmanjantzi]

And now you are trying to cover up the lies by changing the subject and using a tu quoque fallacy. Why is that? Why are creationists continually jumping from one lie to another lie, trying to pretend that they haven't lied?

I stated a question regarding your attack on Christians and forgetting lies told by bad science, and hypocritical atheist. I never stated fact of any sort. Personally I don't believe in Neanderthal, evolution of a Big Bang, or Atheism at its best.

 

[toolmanjantzi]

Neanderthals were once considered a possible candidate as a direct ancestor of modern humans because of the objective fossil evidence.

Key consistent belief phrase "once considered".

 

[toolmanjantzi]

Correct, and that is because we continued to follow the objective evidence. With creationism, they start with the conclusion, ignore any evidence that contradicts their conclusion, and then lie about the evidence.

Evidence please.

 

[Loudmouth]

I stated a question regarding your attack on Christians and forgetting lies told by bad science, and hypocritical atheist.

You never demonstrated any lies, and then told a list of whoppers yourself.

This is the creationist MO. Keep lying, and pretend that everyone else is to blame.

I never stated fact of any sort.

"the whales frozen vertically in dirt were just buried by onlookers"--toolmanjantzi

Now you are running away from your own statements. You stated as fact that there are vertically buried whales. That is a lie.

Personally I don't believe in Neanderthal, evolution of a Big Bang, or Atheism at its best.

You act as if reality changes to match your beliefs. That's not the way it works.

 

[Loudmouth]

Evidence please.

Evidence that demonstrated that Neanderthals and anatomically modern humans share a common ancestor, and were not direct ancestor-descendant pairs:

Ancient DNA and Neanderthals | The Smithsonian Institution's Human Origins Program

Anatomically modern humans are first seen about 100,000 years ago, but the neanderthal and human lineages diverged about 300,000+ years ago according the genetic evidence. This is the evidence that the conclusions are drawn from.

As for creationism, AiG says it best:

"By definition, no apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the scriptural record."
https://answersingenesis.org/about/faith/

 

[bhsmte]

Evidence please.

Watch any video of Ken Hamm, Ray Comfort, visit creation sites and you will have more than enough. But, for a really good laugh, watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AekFGksvuDU

 

[toolmanjantzi]

You never demonstrated any lies, and then told a list of whoppers yourself. This is the creationist MO. Keep lying, and pretend that everyone else is to blame. "the whales frozen vertically in dirt were just buried by onlookers"--toolmanjantzi Now you are running away from your own statements. You stated as fact that there are vertically buried whales. That is a lie. You act as if reality changes to match your beliefs. That's not the way it works.

http://crev.info/2004/02/hundreds_of_whales_buried_suddenly_in_diatoms/

Instead of the vertical whale how about trees.

 

[BL2KTN]

Instead of the vertical whale how about trees.

In other words:

Whoops, he caught me not caring about the truth but just finding whatever crap will make it look like Yawheh did it. That crap wasn't true, so time to find more crap. No need to apologize, I'm too busy finding crap for Yahweh.

 

[Loudmouth]

Instead of the vertical whale how about trees.

First, admit that the vertical whale is a lie told by professional creationists (not necessarily you). I am not going to jump from lie to lie to lie at your beck and call.

Second, find the original, primary source for polystrate trees, not another link to creationist lies.

 

[Loudmouth]

In other words:

Whoops, he caught me not caring about the truth but just finding whatever crap will make it look like Yawheh did it. That crap wasn't true, so time to find more crap. No need to apologize, I'm too busy finding crap for Yahweh.

Given the disregard to the truth that creationists display with reference to science, does it really surprise anyone that people don't take them serious when it comes to claims of God's word, religion, etc.?

If they are so willing to spread untruths when it comes to scientific evidence, why should we expect them to tell the truth when it comes to God?

 

[ihavefoundgod951]

Evolution theory is hokum, I've said it once and I will say it again HOKUM