Why Is Darwinism So Dangerous? (5)

[RickG]

Nor do you give evidence for all of creation being the result of only naturalistic mechanisms acting on a single life form from long long ago.

Look at the fossil record distributed throughout the geologic column exactly in a manner we would expect to describe evolution.

I have posed this question to you and many others time and time again. Explain the fossil record without evolution.

 

[DerelictJunction]

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
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1Co_15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
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Is this supposed to be some sort of support for your God breathed a soul into the first man? I would have thought your reading comprehension of the Bible would be better than your reading comprehension of posts on the internet.
Upon further reflection, I realize that is not possible.

1 Cor 15:45 specifically states that Adam was made (formed, built) with a living soul. That means when God took the dust and built the man, the soul was inside it. God then animated the body by breathing life into it. The soul was inside waiting for the animation of the body.
There is no support for your contention that our soul consists of God's nasal exhalation.

 

[DerelictJunction]

Look at the fossil record distributed throughout the geologic column exactly in a manner we would expect to describe evolution.

I have posed this question to you and many others time and time again. Explain the fossil record without evolution.

I already answered this.

When God was cleaning up the mess from the Flood, He had to put the bodies somewhere.
Since He is a very orderly being, He decided to group the dead bodies in sedimentary layers in the ground. Well, He had to move those layers anyway to get rid of the Flood mess.
So, He put animals that were similar in the same layers so that it looked like a rainbow of sorts. You know, a spectrum of continuity from one layer to another. God is fond of rainbows.

Easy peasy

 

[DerelictJunction]

Treat me however you wish. That's your decision.

It certainly is, and my decision is to follow your lead in how to treat another person's presentation in a discussion.

Oh...and criticism of the atheistic creationist worldview isn't going away.

I await with bated breath your presentation of some actual criticism rather than unevidenced assertion.

 

[RickG]

I already answered this.

When God was cleaning up the mess from the Flood, He had to put the bodies somewhere.
Since He is a very orderly being, He decided to group the dead bodies in sedimentary layers in the ground. Well, He had to move those layers anyway to get rid of the Flood mess.
So, He put animals that were similar in the same layers so that it looked like a rainbow of sorts. You know, a spectrum of continuity from one layer to another. God is fond of rainbows.

Easy peasy

 

[DogmaHunter]

You were taught that all of creation was the result of only naturalist mechanisms weren't you?

No. The word 'only' never came up.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Nope, nothing has been offered to support the atheistic creationist viewpoint.

Because such a viewpont doesn't exist. That's your own invention.

 

[justlookinla]

Look at the fossil record distributed throughout the geologic column exactly in a manner we would expect to describe evolution.

I have posed this question to you and many others time and time again. Explain the fossil record without evolution.

This is the reaction that's so common within the atheistic creationist community which isn't addressing the issue. The issue is concerning the impetus, the power, the force, the mechanism which acted upon a single life form from long long ago which resulted in humanity existing today. What mechanism, what power, what impetus created (and yes it was a creative process) humanity? Why does humanity exist?

Do you understand that the question is about the causation of humanity from a single life form of long long ago....or causation of all the complexity and variety of life we observe today?

 

[justlookinla]

Is this supposed to be some sort of support for your God breathed a soul into the first man? I would have thought your reading comprehension of the Bible would be better than your reading comprehension of posts on the internet.
Upon further reflection, I realize that is not possible.

1 Cor 15:45 specifically states that Adam was made (formed, built) with a living soul. That means when God took the dust and built the man, the soul was inside it. God then animated the body by breathing life into it. The soul was inside waiting for the animation of the body.
There is no support for your contention that our soul consists of God's nasal exhalation.

Who's claiming that the soul was imputed unto Adam by "God's nasal exhalation"? Adam was God's created, made, breathed into creation.

 

[Subduction Zone]

This is the reaction that's so common within the atheistic creationist community which isn't addressing the issue. The issue is concerning the impetus, the power, the force, the mechanism which acted upon a single life form from long long ago which resulted in humanity existing today. What mechanism, what power, what impetus created (and yes it was a creative process) humanity? Why does humanity exist?

Do you understand that the question is about the causation of humanity from a single life form of long long ago....or causation of all the complexity and variety of life we observe today?

What evidence do you have of a force behind evolution?

If you have none you do know how the Null Hypothesis instructs us to deal with your empty claim, don't you?

 

[Subduction Zone]

You have aptly demonstrated you have shovelfuls of no evidence. That's because there's no evidence and it exists only in your imagination.

No, again you are clueless. I have demonstrated that you are afraid. Terribly, terribly afraid. If I was given a similar challenge I would take it.

Why are you so afraid?

 

[justlookinla]

It certainly is, and my decision is to follow your lead in how to treat another person's presentation in a discussion.
I await with bated breath your presentation of some actual criticism rather than unevidenced assertion.

Are you speaking of the mountains of unevidenced evidence which are part of the atheistic creationist gospel?

 

[DogmaHunter]

This is the reaction that's so common within the atheistic creationist community which isn't addressing the issue. The issue is concerning the impetus, the power, the force, the mechanism which acted upon a single life form from long long ago which resulted in humanity existing today. What mechanism, what power, what impetus created (and yes it was a creative process) humanity?

Primarily random mutation + natural selection.
You know... Evolution. The thing you refuse to learn about and insist on misrepresenting.

Why does humanity exist?

Because our ancestors managed to survive.

Do you understand that the question is about the causation of humanity from a single life form of long long ago....or causation of all the complexity and variety of life we observe today?

Yes. Do you understand that evolution theory is the scientific explanation that addresses exactly that?

 

[justlookinla]

No. The word 'only' never came up.

What other impetus was presented other than only, totally, completely, solely naturalistic mechanisms which acted on a single life form from long long ago and created the complexity and variety of life we observe today.

Anything? Anything at all?

 

[justlookinla]

What evidence do you have of a force behind evolution?

Something created humanity, we're sure of that. It depends on what one's faith-based belief system is as to what force created humanity.

If you have none you do know how the Null Hypothesis instructs us to deal with your empty claim, don't you?

I know your 'mountains of evidence' has been null so far. I expect your evidence will continue to be null (as in zero value).

 

[Subduction Zone]

Nope, nothing has been offered to support the atheistic creationist viewpoint.

And this untruth is why I will not give you any evidence. Until what evidence is you will continue to say things that are demonstrably false.

Since you do not know what evidence is why should we give you any?

 

[justlookinla]

No, again you are clueless. I have demonstrated that you are afraid. Terribly, terribly afraid. If I was given a similar challenge I would take it.

Why are you so afraid?

Throw another shovelful of nothing on your 'mountains of evidence'.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Something created humanity, we're sure of that. It depends on what one's faith-based belief system is as to what force created humanity.

Nope, humanity evolved. We have evidence of it. And science is evidence based not faith based. And you just denigrated your own beliefs, even though you did on realize it.

I know your 'mountains of evidence' has been null so far. I expect your evidence will continue to be null (as in zero value).

Nope, my evidence works. Yours doesn't. My evidence wins lawsuits, which are evidence based. Your evidence loses them.

You might be able to argue more efficiently if you learned what evidence is.

 

[DogmaHunter]

What other impetus was presented other than only, totally, completely, solely naturalistic mechanisms which acted on a single life form from long long ago and created the complexity and variety of life we observe today.

Anything? Anything at all?

I answered your question. I said the word "only" never came up.

You asked what we were taught in school concerning evolution. I was taught evolution theory. It does not include the word "only".

It includes that which is supported by evidence. It happens to be natural processes. It never stated that there weren't magical fairies involved. It also never stated they fairies COULD be involved. Because... why would they?

How long do you expect to keep up this ridiculous crusade of yours?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Throw another shovelful of nothing on your 'mountains of evidence'.

I am not afraid. It is clear that you are.

Why are you so afraid?