Why Is Darwinism So Dangerous? (5)

[PsychoSarah]

Nobody assumes themselves to be incorrect. We all believe we're right.



At this point in the conversation, I'm simply presenting the viewpoint that Darwinist creationism is based on the view that only by naturalistic impetuses was humanity created from a single life form from long long ago. No other viewpoint is allowed. That's it, nothing else.

That's an inherently atheistic viewpoint of creation.



Folks were questioning my conclusions of Darwinism, not my conclusions about the bible. I'm offering an explanation.



Darwinist creationism claims that all life is the result of only, totally, completely naturalistic processes. That's how you were created, that's how I was created. It's the only explanation allowed.

And I am strait up telling you that you are WRONG, not one bit of what you have said in regards to evolution is true.

 

[bhsmte]

Any philosophical viewpoint which rejects the existence of God will of course have differing conclusions among atheists, dependent upon other factors in the atheists life. The common thread will be philosophical outlooks and values based not on any theistic viewpoint, but on other influences from life.

Atheism shapes one's life philosophy just as theism shapes one's life philosophy. I'm surprised you're arguing that it doesn't.

Prove it.

 

[Davian]

Any philosophical viewpoint which rejects the existence of God will of course have differing conclusions among atheists, dependent upon other factors in the atheists life. The common thread will be philosophical outlooks and values based not on any theistic viewpoint, but on other influences from life.

Atheism shapes one's life philosophy just as theism shapes one's life philosophy. I'm surprised you're arguing that it doesn't.

If I tell you how you think, and I am wrong, am I still wrong?

 

[bhsmte]

Actually, your hero here does all that for us quite well lately

As I said; predictable.

 

[theophilus777]

Evolution looks at naturalistic processes, like any scientific theory.

If you need other processes to be involved in a scientific theory, go ahead and add them for your own personal satisfaction.

Do you understand that science looks at naturalistic processes? Yes or no?

And yet Mr FSM has gotten his panties in such a grundle that he has confused this issue. It reminds one of Bugs Bunny outsmarting Duffy Duck by getting Daffy to tell Elmer it's Duck season.

But nope, no religion involved here. Certainly not any fundamentalism, nor insisting upon strict adherence of orthodox doctrine

 

[justlookinla]

And I am strait up telling you that you are WRONG, not one bit of what you have said in regards to evolution is true.

And I'm plainly telling you that you're wrong. Everything I've claimed about Darwinist creationism is true.

 

[bhsmte]

And I'm plainly telling you that you're wrong. Everything I've claimed about Darwinist creationism is true.

Justlookinlaism desperately needs to be true, to you.

Have you convinced yourself yet, or are you still having inner turmoil?

 

[theophilus777]

I've presented it over and over. But, once again.

Darwinism is an inherently atheistic creationist viewpoint in that there is only one theory allowed, one which disallows anything and everything other than an entirely naturalistic creation. It demands that humanity is the creation of only, completely naturalistic processes. Humanity cannot be anything other than the result of "natural selection of small, inherited variations". That's it. It's a complete creationist doctrine in itself based entirely on one viewpoint.

It's inherently atheistic.

It is completely atheistic, but it's not complete. For it to be complete, they need cosmology and abiogenesis.

How it is taught re: its inherent atheistic properties is completely up to the discretion of the teacher. This gets our fundy evolutionists here really wound up, have you noticed? (I wonder what page of their catechism that requirement is on?)

 

[justlookinla]

Prove it.

Here's a few philosophical quotes from a leading atheist....

“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
― Richard Dawkins

“There is something infantile in the presumption that somebody else has a responsibility to give your life meaning and point… The truly adult view, by contrast, is that our life is as meaningful, as full and as wonderful as we choose to make it.”
― Richard Dawkins

“We are going to die, and that makes us the lucky ones. Most people are never going to die because they are never going to be born. The potential people who could have been here in my place but who will in fact never see the light of day outnumber the sand grains of Arabia. Certainly those unborn ghosts include greater poets than Keats, scientists greater than Newton. We know this because the set of possible people allowed by our DNA so massively exceeds the set of actual people. In the teeth of these stupefying odds it is you and I, in our ordinariness, that are here.We privileged few, who won the lottery of birth against all odds, how dare we whine at our inevitable return to that prior state from which the vast majority have never stirred?”
― Richard Dawkins

 

[theophilus777]

Prove it.

Make me

 

[PsychoSarah]

Make me

Well if you aren't willing to defend your position...

 

[bhsmte]

And yet Mr FSM has gotten his panties in such a grundle that he has confused this issue. It reminds one of Bugs Bunny outsmarting Duffy Duck by getting Daffy to tell Elmer it's Duck season.

But nope, no religion involved here. Certainly not any fundamentalism, nor insisting upon strict adherence of orthodox doctrine

Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck and Elmer, do you watch them often?

 

[PsychoSarah]

And I'm plainly telling you that you're wrong. Everything I've claimed about Darwinist creationism is true.

-_- no, you really are way off about it.

 

[bhsmte]

Here's a few philosophical quotes from a leading atheist....

“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
― Richard Dawkins

“There is something infantile in the presumption that somebody else has a responsibility to give your life meaning and point… The truly adult view, by contrast, is that our life is as meaningful, as full and as wonderful as we choose to make it.”
― Richard Dawkins

“We are going to die, and that makes us the lucky ones. Most people are never going to die because they are never going to be born. The potential people who could have been here in my place but who will in fact never see the light of day outnumber the sand grains of Arabia. Certainly those unborn ghosts include greater poets than Keats, scientists greater than Newton. We know this because the set of possible people allowed by our DNA so massively exceeds the set of actual people. In the teeth of these stupefying odds it is you and I, in our ordinariness, that are here.We privileged few, who won the lottery of birth against all odds, how dare we whine at our inevitable return to that prior state from which the vast majority have never stirred?”
― Richard Dawkins

Philosophical quotes from one atheist? Amusing.

Ever see quotes from fundie Christians?

 

[bhsmte]

Make me

Now I know you watch Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck.

Predictable.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Philosophical quotes from one atheist? Amusing.

Ever see quotes from fundie Christians?

One atheist who needs some work on his philosophy, and that is me being generous. Seriously, Dawkins isn't the representative of all of atheism.

 

[bhsmte]

Well if you aren't willing to defend your position...

Defend? Where is the fun in that? Much more fun to baldly assert claims, then it is to actually have substance to defend them.

 

[justlookinla]

Philosophical quotes from one atheist? Amusing.

Ever see quotes from fundie Christians?

You asked for proof, I gave you proof.

 

[justlookinla]

One atheist who needs some work on his philosophy, and that is me being generous. Seriously, Dawkins isn't the representative of all of atheism.

I'm not claiming that Dawkins is representative of all atheism. The request was made concerning atheism producing a philosophy of life. The quotes are an example of atheism producing Dawkins' philosophy of life.

 

[bhsmte]

One atheist who needs some work on his philosophy, and that is me being generous. Seriously, Dawkins isn't the representative of all of atheism.

Precisely the point. Everyone has their own philosophy and they are entitled to it. Justlookinlaism has his, Dawkins has his, you have yours, I have mine and we all go home happy.