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theophilus777
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Well, I'm most interested in the part about marriage being a blessing of God that only he can bestow.
And yet this is the issue, and the cause for resistance from Christians.
NOT the other things you have said.
Do you really want to be known for spreading lies? And how would that help anything?
What does that have to do with civil marriage which is actually acquired by visiting the county clerk, paying the fee and filling out the paperwork? Marriage licenses don't fall out of the sky.
Exactly my point! Make reasonable arguments, and any opposition to them is very little. Paperwork created and completed by people is completely distinct from God's Blessing of marriage. So why does it matter so much what paperwork people create and fill out, if its called this or that? Just don't pee on my leg and tell me its raining, and don't tell me a homosexual couple is the same thing as a heterosexual couple, because clearly they aren't.
I'm not a Christian and I'm married with all the benefits and protections that comes with marriage. Should my marriage be revoked because god was not a part of the ceremony (which is not even necessary to be legally recognized as married)?
This is not a reasonable question. You know better than this.
If gay people don't have all the civil rights now, in what world do you think they would have had them years ago? Civil unions? Yea, that not equality.
Ramming down the throat is not going to create the kind of equality anyone wants, either. If nobody ever came up with a solution better than civil unions they would still be afforded all the civil rights anyone could ever ask for. You simply can't legislate the sorts of things this battle has turned into. The fact of the matter is a LOT of people who hold homosexuality to be sin have decided to be on the side of SSM simply out of pity, eager to grant these people civil rights. That in no way means gays have any victory that is meaningfully above civil unions that grant equal civil rights. They want to stress out over a word? No, it's social acceptance they want. And that is what they are losing by being engaged in an adversarial relationship over this. That's how you make enemies, not friends. Its bad strategy. It sets their cause back.
You can't legislate the kind of non-discrimination you would like to impose on my business, either. it's a contract. Which means its not binding if I don't enter into it. These things are settled exactly as you mentioned previously, by free market forces. if somebody wants to be a tool about it, that probably won't be so good for business. Then somebody else takes advantage of the opportunity, and the marketplace decides if this is a good thing or a bad thing. That is the way social change is effected, not by pretending you have some power to declare what another person thinks or feels.
Btw, 40+ years ago Christians were providing facilities for gays to meet, and support for those who attended those meetings. Who peed in your Cheerios?
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