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The ark was a commercial river barge?

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12th April 2003

Canadian scientists announce that they have sequenced the genome of the virus which is thought to cause Severe acute respiratory syndrome.
 
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Holy necromancing necros, batman!

I have to admit, I necroed this thread as an experiment.

Sometimes I necro a thread to watch people rush in to ridicule the point made, without paying attention to when it was made.
 
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More scientific, since river barges are known objects that are relatively common, and giant 450+ ft monstrosities built by a 600 year old man are completely unheard of and physically impossible to construct using wood sans steel.

Actually the bible reveals that metal working was well established by Noah's day. A combination of large structure wood joinery and iron reinforcement makes such a project very possible. Our concepts of the ark come from artists renderings and not the design indicated by the biblical account. The movie, "Noah", will follow the same path as those medieval artists and support the notion of a completely unseaworthy structure that would collapse and sink under the first large wave.
 
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Actually the bible reveals that metal working was well established by Noah's day. A combination of large structure wood joinery and iron reinforcement makes such a project very possible. Our concepts of the ark come from artists renderings and not the design indicated by the biblical account. The movie, "Noah", will follow the same path as those medieval artists and support the notion of a completely unseaworthy structure that would collapse and sink under the first large wave.

I don't envision the Ark having anything other than gopher wood and pitch.

No nails, no metal, no glass, no stone, no nothing.

Just gopher wood, held together by pitch.
 
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I don't envision the Ark having anything other than gopher wood and pitch.

No nails, no metal, no glass, no stone, no nothing.

Just gopher wood, held together by pitch.
How can a wooden boat be large enough and still be structurally sound, to contain all of the uniquely reproductive populations of animal organisms on earth at the time? Not only every species of cat, cow, dog and donkey, but every prehistoric species that couldn't escape the flood too since the fossil record was laid down during the flood. All theropods and sauropods and so on had to be on there too. And since the idea is to preserve animal species you have to include every genetically unique population of animal species that can't survive the flood.

That's millions of animal species. Not hundreds, millions! And at least 2 of each and every one had to be on the Ark. How is that possible?
 
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How can a wooden boat be large enough and still be structurally sound, to contain all of the uniquely reproductive populations of animal organisms on earth at the time? Not only every species of cat, cow, dog and donkey, but every prehistoric species that couldn't escape the flood too since the fossil record was laid down during the flood. All theropods and sauropods and so on had to be on there too. And since the idea is to preserve animal species you have to include every genetically unique population of animal species that can't survive the flood.

That's millions of animal species. Not hundreds, millions! And at least 2 of each and every one had to be on the Ark. How is that possible?

Simple -- the Ark was a TARDIS booth.
 
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How can a wooden boat be large enough and still be structurally sound, to contain all of the uniquely reproductive populations of animal organisms on earth at the time? Not only every species of cat, cow, dog and donkey, but every prehistoric species that couldn't escape the flood too since the fossil record was laid down during the flood. All theropods and sauropods and so on had to be on there too. And since the idea is to preserve animal species you have to include every genetically unique population of animal species that can't survive the flood.

That's millions of animal species. Not hundreds, millions! And at least 2 of each and every one had to be on the Ark. How is that possible?

The ark, as described in the story, would have been very seaworthy.

Noah's flood was the last global flood, not the only one. After the flood that is described in Genesis 1 (the earth in a flooded condition) God restored the plant and animal life on earth. It is probable that he did the same after Noah's flood. God brought selected species for protection on the ark, not every species. While the story is presented as an actual event and not a metaphor or allegory there are hyperbolic aspects as well.
 
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Earth will be the only anything 'everyone' will know, apart from when they're asleep and dreaming or in the case of religious people, awake and dreaming.

Well ... for the record ... we dreamers have a saying that covers that:

Aim for Earth, get Earth; aim for Heaven, get both.
 
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Well ... for the record ... we dreamers have a saying that covers that:

Aim for Earth, get Earth; aim for Heaven, get both.

Or get disappointed. That is why I always keep my expectations low for good things, that way everything will almost always turn out better than I imagined :) and I always exaggerate how bad I expect something to be so that it is almost always going to be less bad than I expected :). It is a very pessimistic way to produce happiness, but it works.
 
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Or get disappointed. That is why I always keep my expectations low for good things, that way everything will almost always turn out better than I imagined :) and I always exaggerate how bad I expect something to be so that it is almost always going to be less bad than I expected :). It is a very pessimistic way to produce happiness, but it works.

:thumbsup: I went from complaining about things to "at my age every day is a gift". Works great.
 
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Live every day as if it's your last because one day it will be.:amen:

Can't think that way either. I still have to plan for tomorrow and beyond.
 
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I highly doubt you have no phobias. The only time people don't have phobias is if they have certain psychological disorders.

Based on this definition I don't have any phobia's.

"A phobia (from the Greek: φόβος, Phóbos, meaning "fear" or "morbid fear") is, when used in the context of clinical psychology, a type of anxiety disorder, usually defined as a persistent fear of an object or situation in which the sufferer commits to great lengths in avoiding, typically disproportional to the actual danger posed, often being recognized as irrational. In the event the phobia cannot be avoided entirely, the sufferer will endure the situation or object with marked distress and significant interference in social or occupational activities." (From Wikipedia.)

Well, I'll never swim in the ocean: fear of sharks (Of course I live in Wisconsin, no real danger from sharks.)
 
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