Adam AND an Old Earth

[BryanW92]

It is evident to me that thousands of years ago factory cities were built on the moon and other bodies. Everything about manufacturing in outer space makes more sense. Castings have zero porosity and in near zero G, the mechanical properties are dramatically changed.

What's more is this talk about the inability to sustain the human race is donkey. The domed cities on the moon were designed to be self sufficient and enclose mountainous areas of ecology. It would make sense for us to return there and learn this science and send our manufacturing there and turn Earth into a clean planet.

But a cosmic event destroyed this ancient civilization.

This difficult area of research needs more Christ powered people looking into it because while the secular world is finding out, they are unable to really pack the kind of punch we can by praying for light to be shed into darkness especially what the government has hidden so far.

Moon cities! What??

I suggest you read the book by Jonathan Cahn the Harbinger, where he outlines the 9 harbingers as evidence America is undergoing the same model of judgment as occured to Israel when they rebelled. America was built upon the Jewish model, right down to George Washington signing the founding documents under the sycamore tree at the future site of the twin towers.

WorldNetDaily fan. OK. Now I understand.

 

[standingtall]

I suggest you read the book by Jonathan Cahn the Harbinger, where he outlines the 9 harbingers as evidence America is undergoing the same model of judgment as occured to Israel when they rebelled. America was built upon the Jewish model, right down to George Washington signing the founding documents under the sycamore tree at the future site of the twin towers.

Wait a minute...I thought Washington was a mason and he was behind the masonic Luciferian design of Washington D.C....now you're telling me he built America on the Jewish model? I'M SO CONFUSED!!!

 

[BryanW92]

Wait a minute...I thought Washington was a mason and he was behind the masonic Luciferian design of Washington D.C....now you're telling me he built America on the Jewish model? I'M SO CONFUSED!!!

Joseph Farah (and his website, WorldNetDaily) are slightly insane. He is in that (fortunately) tiny subset of fundamentalists who believe that Christian salvation is found in our willingness to pretend to be Jewish. There's a couple of them here on CF as well.

I read "Harbinger". It is based on one or two verses in Isaiah and from those verses, the author builds this entire mythology of the nature of the USA and our future, based on some loose associations between the individual words in the verses and 9/11.

 

[standingtall]

Joseph Farah (and his website, WorldNetDaily) are slightly insane. He is in that (fortunately) tiny subset of fundamentalists who believe that Christian salvation is found in our willingness to pretend to be Jewish. There's a couple of them here on CF as well.

I'm also aware of WND. It's the Christian "National Enquirer".

 

[pescador]

Various sources that I have seen over the years, that could be linked if necessary. Another (shouldn't be) shocking statistic is the number of Christian men addicted to porn, which is at around the same number - 70% (or at least it was a couple years ago and doubtful it has changed)

You don't have to read the rest of my post, if you perceive it as negative or whatever you can read what you want

This is so absurd that I'm leaving this thread. You're just grabbing whatever nonsensical "facts" that fit your predetermined "truth" and then posting them as though they have some merit. God's Word tells us not to get caught up in all kinds of absurd discussions: "Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels." 2 Timothy 2:23

 

[dragongunner]

I gotta copy this and email this thread to my sister.....she just won't believe it.

 

[Knockout]

Moon cities! What??

WorldNetDaily fan. OK. Now I understand.

Not much to it, if you check the blood moons and sabbaths for the last 1500 years, you don't have to be WND fan to see a correlation between these dates and major events regarding the Jewish people.

 

[Knockout]

Wait a minute...I thought Washington was a mason and he was behind the masonic Luciferian design of Washington D.C....now you're telling me he built America on the Jewish model? I'M SO CONFUSED!!!

Ok, I will identify you as you have identified me - you are a far left revisionist planted here so the enemy has first hand knowledge of the Christian community

 

[Knockout]

Joseph Farah (and his website, WorldNetDaily) are slightly insane. He is in that (fortunately) tiny subset of fundamentalists who believe that Christian salvation is found in our willingness to pretend to be Jewish. There's a couple of them here on CF as well.

I read "Harbinger". It is based on one or two verses in Isaiah and from those verses, the author builds this entire mythology of the nature of the USA and our future, based on some loose associations between the individual words in the verses and 9/11.

More misinformation. Sanity/insanity is not the issue. I asked Ted to check the Jewish calendar for sabbath years and sabbath days and match it up against the 2001 terror attacks and the 2008 lehman brothers collapse.

Whether Joseph is insane or not he found the correlation and the scripture backing is sound. Character attacks are a classic first response to the truth by Obama's new Left.

 

[Knockout]

This is so absurd that I'm leaving this thread. You're just grabbing whatever nonsensical "facts" that fit your predetermined "truth" and then posting them as though they have some merit. God's Word tells us not to get caught up in all kinds of absurd discussions: "Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels." 2 Timothy 2:23

no loss

 

[BryanW92]

More misinformation. Sanity/insanity is not the issue. I asked Ted to check the Jewish calendar for sabbath years and sabbath days and match it up against the 2001 terror attacks and the 2008 lehman brothers collapse.

Whether Joseph is insane or not he found the correlation and the scripture backing is sound. Character attacks are a classic first response to the truth by Obama's new Left.

Farah and his fellow neo-Judaists are trying to create a new revelation that Christians have been wrong for 2000 years and should really be acting like Jews.

I read WND for years and used to be a fan. But, when Farah latched on to this Isaiah 9:10 Prophecy business, he lost me. Jesus made it very clear that we are not required to be Jews. In fact, since the temple was destroyed, Jews can't even be Jews! They had to invent the Talmud to change Judaism from the people who follow the Law to people who just follow the Rabbi.

It is true that you might be able to use blood moons and Sabbath years to match up dates, but how many of those dates had nothing occur out of the ordinary? Its like the prophecies of Nostradamus--if the viewer looks hard enough, he can find anything in those thousands of quatrains, but we never look at the ones that connect to nothing. Random correlation is statistically meaningless.

God does not give out math problems as prophecy. That is the job of men.

 

[Knockout]

None of them had nothing occur out of the ordinary. Every single one, that lined up with a Sabbath year, is linked directly to a significant historical Jewish event. The statistical odds of this happening by chance are zero, and since the bible has predicted this correlation in the old testament, the statistical odds become 100%.

 

[Knockout]

Hi knockout,

Yes well, I don't think I can get there from here.

God bless you.
In Christ, Ted

Then dismiss it for now, it was just a little test I do, in the end all will be revealed.

It's not living in darkness. I totally disagree with that statement.
Locked in a prison? No that too is just folly.

Why on earth (the old earth ) would people take such a staunch tone about Creationism?
Some people who are against doctrine don't realize that they create doctrine on this issue. Usually it's the 6,000 year crowd. Just read the General Theology forum.

Speaking of evolution though...which I don't think is a real phenomenon, I was listening to Adrian Rogers on the radio today.
He was talking about it, and then stated "Why do people always want to make monkeys out of themselves?"
I laughed.

The tragedy is that, Christians do not realize they are living in blindness, no more than the Pharisees or teachers of the Law did. Are we better than them? They thought they were living in light, nothing could have been further from the truth though.

If the Christian community cannot agree on basic things like the origin and timeline of the earth, why should the people of the world come to us? We don't have the answers and enjoy squabbling over it more than anything else. We do not have answers, only circular logic, if this is the case.

I agree evolution is not a real phenomenon.

 

[BryanW92]

None of them had nothing occur out of the ordinary. Every single one, that lined up with a Sabbath year, is linked directly to a significant historical Jewish event. The statistical odds of this happening by chance are zero, and since the bible has predicted this correlation in the old testament, the statistical odds become 100%.

Where does the bible predict this?

 

[Knockout]

Joel 2:31 and the bible illustrates the meaning of these signs leading up to, during and after the crucifixion of Christ

 

[JGiddings]

Ok this thread wasn't what I expected! LOL
Carry on.

 

[Bluelion]

The problem with the old earth is we can trace the bloodline from Adam to Jesus and in many cases we know how long each person lived until the time God set 120 years to be the max, Adam lived almost a thousand years, it decline from then on, even if we said everyone lived a thousand years until the time of Jesus it would not make the earth millions of years old. Scripture just does not support the old earth.

 

[JGiddings]

I believe that the bloodlines are true, although that really doesn't prove YE.
In both of the main biblical text variants it states that God formed the earth; there is no implication (except by interpretation by modern man) that that was the point when he actually created the planet. It was formless, not non-existent. That's what I'm talking about brother.

 

[Bluelion]

I believe that the bloodlines are true, although that really doesn't prove YE.
In both of the main biblical text variants it states that God formed the earth; there is no implication (except by interpretation by modern man) that that was the point when he actually created the planet. It was formless, not non-existent. That's what I'm talking about brother.

Your wrong it was not there the text says void, void means empty, nothingness, not even the water was there, there was no rock it was void, nothing It also points to this fact in the beginning was the word and the word was God. At the start was God in 3 parts the Trinity.

 

[JGiddings]

Your wrong it was not there the text says void, void means empty, nothingness, not even the water was there, there was no rock it was void, nothing It also points to this fact in the beginning was the word and the word was God. At the start was God in 3 parts the Trinity.

Not Arguing the Trinity.
Actually I'm not arguing anything

I'm still not convinced that the Creation account in Genesis is literal. Oh well I'll agree to disagree if you will Brother.