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A Pondering of the Peculiar (3)

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You can not differentiate between me, and a book? How pathetic your ability to reason must be if that is the case.

It might explain why you keep looking at Christianity through Picasso eyes.

Again with the personal attack.

That you pulled the insults from your book does not excuse how you use them. Where do you get your morals from?
 
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History books would paint a different picture.

Your context is out of whack.

Not in the United States schools.


Art. 3. Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary to good
government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means
of education shall forever be encouraged.



Jefferson was writing in reference to the school system for the bringing up of children. He condoned the teaching of religion and morality in the classroom. Keep in mind, he was well acquainted with the original intent of the Constitution. He was not a Christian.

Now, go back to playing your video game.
 
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Your context is out of whack.

Not in the United States schools.


Art. 3. Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary to good
government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means
of education shall forever be encouraged.



Jefferson was writing in reference to the school system for the bringing up of children. He condoned the teaching of religion and morality in the classroom. Keep in mind, he was well acquainted with the original intent of the Constitution. He was not a Christian.

Now, go back to playing your video game.

So you wouldn't mind having your tax dollars being used to teach Islam to students in public schools, or Hinduism? Would you be ok with a teacher leading students in an offering to one of the Hindu gods?
 
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All you are doing is repeating the tenets of religion for christianity.


Point is. It just happened to me on its own without me being aware of what was taking place.

I did not know any tenets while they were happening to me. Again.. I was a Jew from birth. No Christianity in my background.

Christianity was only a curiosity to me. It was never learned by me other than what little we saw on TV, which is often times distorted. It was Jesus on the Cross that always made me wonder. Apparently, I knew just enough to get saved.

I was not baptized. Did not take communion. Never attended a church service. Only the Cross and I. I got saved by reading a tiny tract. And, if I had died a few weeks later? I would have never known why I got to Heaven. Not until someone told me what I had done.
 
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So you wouldn't mind having your tax dollars being used to teach Islam to students in public schools, or Hinduism? Would you be ok with a teacher leading students in an offering to one of the Hindu gods?


No teacher was leading students to Christ. The vast majority of people at that time were all Christians. It was agreed upon with consent of the people. Religious freedom was one of the things that attracted many to the new world. Christians who were seeking to escape their old government religious tyranny sought passage to the colonies.

Today we need to change things because it would cause too much confusion with the many different religions in the nation. Again, because we offer religious freedom. Yet, the nation was founded as a nation of primarily Christians and some others who were pro-Christian in attitude who were seeking asylum from the tyrannies in the old world.
 
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Your context is out of whack.

Not in the United States schools.
My context in planet Earth. There is history that predates the USA.:wave:


Art. 3. Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary to good
government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means
of education shall forever be encouraged.



Jefferson was writing in reference to the school system for the bringing up of children. He condoned the teaching of religion and morality in the classroom. Keep in mind, he was well acquainted with the original intent of the Constitution. He was not a Christian.
Would you approve of Jefferson's bible being taught in classrooms?

Now, go back to playing your video game.
Nice condescending tone you have there. It certainly does speak of your character.
 
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My context in planet Earth. There is history that predates the USA.:wave:


Would you approve of Jefferson's bible being taught in classrooms?


Nice condescending tone you have there. It certainly does speak of your character.

What ever happened to the genome similarities proving evolution? ;)
 
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Confused me with someone else again? Are you having trouble with your memory?

That proves evolution?

God in his wisdom has certain creatures with latent qualities already built into their DNA. Like a chameleon can change colors to match its background. If an island only had a green terrain... no bare earth? No wood showing? One would normally think chameleons are green. But, take them out of their normal environment, and place them where we find earth and tree bark? Lo and behold! Evolution!? No...

God created an ability to adapt into the finches that Darwin observed. The environment's unexpected change triggered what was already built in. But, prior to the change it had never stimulated into action for man to observe.

There are animals right now that have the inbuilt ability to adapt and change in order to survive. God's nature is revealed when that happens.

Matthew 6:8

Do not be like them, for your Father knows
what you need before you ask him.


The creation reveals God's nature. Evolutionists have found ways to distort that truth. Its an attack on finding God through His creation. Intelligent Design is God rubbing it in the noses of those who refuse to be humbled. You know someone would have to be an idiot to know all the data we know about creation and still think it could all happen by lucky random chances... with matter conveniently showing up out from nowhere. Matter is not ageless.
 
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Your context is out of whack.

Not in the United States schools.


Art. 3. Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary to good
government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means
of education shall forever be encouraged.



Jefferson was writing in reference to the school system for the bringing up of children. He condoned the teaching of religion and morality in the classroom. Keep in mind, he was well acquainted with the original intent of the Constitution. He was not a Christian.

Now, go back to playing your video game.

Morality yes, religion no.

Do we need to bring up the letter he wrote?

Now in reality religion was so deeply ensconced in schools at the time he probably recognized that to get rid of religion was impossible then.
 
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Morality yes, religion no.

Do we need to bring up the letter he wrote?

Go ahead. You might learn something.

Now in reality religion was so deeply ensconced in schools at the time he probably recognized that to get rid of religion was impossible then.

At least you are pointing to what made this country at one time great.
 
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That proves evolution?
Your memory loss? No.

God in his wisdom has certain creatures with latent qualities already built into their DNA.
Could you state that in terms that an evolutionary biologist might use?

Like a chameleon can change colors to match its background. If an island only had a green terrain... no bare earth? No wood showing? One would normally think chameleons are green. But, take them out of their normal environment, and place them where we find earth and tree bark? Lo and behold! Evolution!? No...
No indeed.

"Chameleons have specialized cells, chromatophores, which contain pigments in their cytoplasm, in three layers below their transparent outer skin:
The chromatophores in the upper layer, called xanthophores and erythrophores, contain yellow and red pigments, respectively.
Below the chromatophores is a second layer of chromatophores called iridophores or guanophores; these contain guanine, appearing blue or white.
The deepest layer of chromatophores, called melanophores, contain the dark pigment melanin, which controls how much light is reflected."


Chameleon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
God created an ability to adapt into the finches that Darwin observed.
Cool story. how did he do that?
The environment's unexpected change triggered what was already built in. But, prior to the change it had never stimulated into action for man to observe.
Evolutionary changes may take hundreds of thousands of years. How long have you been watching?
There are animals right now that have the inbuilt ability to adapt and change in order to survive. God's nature is revealed when that happens.
What of all the animals that could not adapt and are now extinct? Is that also God's nature revealed?
Matthew 6:8

Do not be like them, for your Father knows
what you need before you ask him.


The creation reveals God's nature. Evolutionists have found ways to distort that truth.
How would you know that? Because it does not match your truth? Have you considered that you may be wrong (I know you haven't, but I have to ask anyway :wave:).

Its an attack on finding God through His creation.
Produce the victim.

Never-mind. You said you cannot.
Intelligent Design is God rubbing it in the noses of those who refuse to be humbled.
ID is a failed attempt to get religion into the science class. If there was an omnipotent deity behind such an effort, I would have hoped it would have done a lot better. ^_^
You know someone would have to be an idiot to know all the data we know about creation and still think it could all happen by lucky random chances...
I don't beleive in luck, or know what you mean by "random". Perhaps you could clarify.
with matter conveniently showing up out from nowhere. Matter is not ageless.
Who said it was?

Other than that? Any more cartoons?
The cartoon was in my sig, not my post. Seriously, are you okay?
 
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"Chameleons have specialized cells, chromatophores, which contain pigments in their cytoplasm, in three layers below their transparent outer skin:
The chromatophores in the upper layer, called xanthophores and erythrophores, contain yellow and red pigments, respectively.
Below the chromatophores is a second layer of chromatophores called iridophores or guanophores; these contain guanine, appearing blue or white.
The deepest layer of chromatophores, called melanophores, contain the dark pigment melanin, which controls how much light is reflected."


Chameleon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I see you avoided the setting and details I gave. I used to have pet chameleons. I read up on them quite a bit.

What I said was not asking about how they have the ability. But that does not deter you from showing off some more meaningless data in regards that it does not pertain to what I actually said.

I gave a hypothetical reason how ... under certain conditions... a chameleon living on a constant background, would have always retained the ability to change, even when it was not made evident because of always being on the same background. Likewise, God built into certain creatures an ability for change. One that will remain latent until placed in an environment that will stimulate this ability into action. After all, God created the chameleon (what a super genius my Lord really is!) It was just as easy for Him to create in other creatures a similar ability to change when the need arises.

Could you state that in terms that an evolutionary biologist might use?
Evolutionary biologists do not enter God into the equation. They have not yet evolved far enough to do so.
 
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I see you avoided the setting and details I gave. I used to have pet chameleons. I read up on them quite a bit.
And I see you cut out the majority of my post and failed to respond to it.
What I said was not asking about how they have the ability. But that does not deter you from showing off some more meaningless data in regards that it does not pertain to what I actually said.
Yes, but your post was not in respond to what I said. I did point out you have me confused with another poster. Does that happen a lot for you?
I gave a hypothetical reason how ... under certain conditions... a chameleon living on a constant background, would have always retained the ability to change, even when it was not made evident because of always being on the same background. Likewise, God built into certain creatures an ability for change.
And for most of the other animals they were left to go extinct, as observed in the fossil record. Why is that?
One that will remain latent until placed in an environment that will stimulate this ability into action. After all, God created the chameleon (what a super genius my Lord really is!) It was just as easy for Him to create in other creatures a similar ability to change when the need arises.
Did this super genius also create all of those cool parasites, like parasitic wasps, or the the worms that burrow into children's eyes so that they go blind, or the one that eats the fish's tongue and then takes the place of the tongue, so it can keep eating?

Absurd Creature of the Week: This Parasite Eats a Fish's Tongue — And Takes Its Place - Wired Science

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Such a genius. Hypothetically, of course.
Evolutionary biologists do not enter God into the equation.
In the world of science, gods are of no significance.
They have not yet evolved far enough to do so.
Individuals do not evolve, populations evolve. Did you not know that?
 
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