The Celibate Thread

[RenewedInHim]

Because your blunt and obnoxious in a good way and it amuses me. This forum needs more people like you...Except finding them might be hard. So cloning you might be the best option!

Come to Michigan, where the blunt and obnoxious reign! It's the cold, freezing our filters right off.

 

[ImperatorWall]

I wasn't being mean. I do have a sense of humor, you know.

Oh, you do?

 

[K9_Trainer]

Oh yeah! We were talking about celebacy...Whoops! I'll go away now...

 

[Strider1002]

I've been thinking, why does celibacy have to be easy to be considered a gift? As I see it, this life is preparing us (Christians) for eternity. Struggle makes us stronger. I have no doubt that struggling is a gift from God. I don't enjoy it, but that's not the point. It's meant for our good.

 

[Nanopants]

Celibacy can be considered whatever you want to consider it to be, whether that concept is derived from scripture, or not, and scripture treats the subject as hands-off, saying not all can accept the saying that some make themselves eunuchs, that each is given their own gifts, and there is no pressure one way or the other. Personally I'd like people to not be concerned with my sexuality, private parts, or anything else that is personal, and it is a violation of my rights for anyone to try to control me in that area so long as I am respecting the rights of others.

 

[Dark Winter]

oh, the whole place is crawling with michiganders!

 

[MarkSB]

oh, the whole place is crawling with michiganders!

Yeah, I'm kind of wondering if any of them are Yoopers.

 

[Strider1002]

Celibacy can be considered whatever you want to consider it to be, whether that concept is derived from scripture, or not, and scripture treats the subject as hands-off, saying not all can accept the saying that some make themselves eunuchs, that each is given their own gifts, and there is no pressure one way or the other. Personally I'd like people to not be concerned with my sexuality, private parts, or anything else that is personal, and it is a violation of my rights for anyone to try to control me in that area so long as I am respecting the rights of others.

Okay, simmer down now.

 

[K9_Trainer]

Come to Michigan, where the blunt and obnoxious reign! It's the cold, freezing our filters right off.

Nooooo thank you! I'll admire you blunt and obnoxious, frozen folks from my comfy place in CA where the temperature has been in the 80's.

 

[Dark Winter]

I come from the land of the ice and snow . . . perfect song for michigan.

 

[Dark Winter]

Yeah, I'm kind of wondering if any of them are Yoopers.

very clever set up for those who are not, but I'm not biting.

 

[Nanopants]

Okay, simmer down now.

There's no problem here. Consider it a warning shot.

 

[MarkSB]

I've been thinking, why does celibacy have to be easy to be considered a gift? As I see it, this life is preparing us (Christians) for eternity. Struggle makes us stronger. I have no doubt that struggling is a gift from God. I don't enjoy it, but that's not the point. It's meant for our good.

Pretty much the same thing I was thinking. If it were easy abstinence or purity couldn't really be considered a virtue.

I also agree with Miss Spaulding that it is a choice, but I'm not sure if a choice and a calling/gift are mutually exclusive.

 

[Nanopants]

Pretty much the same thing I was thinking. If it were easy abstinence or purity couldn't really be considered a virtue.

Define "purity" using scripture if you can please, otherwise I think this also is one of those morals that isn't founded on scripture, if "purity" is assumed to be a kind of state of one's sexuality.

The purity that I've found described in scripture is defined as purity of heart, and doesn't appear to be focused on sexual activity, but rather on all kinds of activity as being affected by the state of one's heart before God.

 

[Dark Winter]

why can a virtue not be easily obtained?

except to point out one's own added virtue, I do not see the gain in celibacy.

 

[MarkSB]

Define "purity" using scripture if you can please, otherwise I think this also is one of those morals that isn't founded on scripture, if "purity" is assumed to be a state of one's sexuality.

The purity that I've found described in scripture is defined as purity of heart, and doesn't appear to be focused on sexual activity, but essentially encompasses all kinds of activity.

If you want to start a debate, please take it to another thread.

 

[Paulie079]

Define "purity" using scripture if you can please, otherwise I think this also is one of those morals that isn't founded on scripture, if "purity" is assumed to be a kind of state of one's sexuality.

The purity that I've found described in scripture is defined as purity of heart, and doesn't appear to be focused on sexual activity, but essentially encompasses all kinds of activity.

But then that does include sexual purity, which is basically fleeing from sexual immorality and putting off lust.

 

[christsoccer]

I have NO PROBLEM abstaining from sex and being celibate while I am single. But I do not wish for this to be the case for the rest of my life. I strongly desire the companionship, intimacy, support and, yes, physical acts of love and sex that I can provide for a wife and vice versa in marriage. I have no desire to have to repress my passions and desires for the rest of my time on Earth.

 

[Strider1002]

If you can have sexual immorality, you can have sexual purity.

 

[Nanopants]

But then that does include sexual purity, which is basically fleeing from sexual immorality and putting off lust.

But if one confuses it for "sexual purity," then it's possible to completely miss "purity of heart." Example: the woman caught in the act of adultery. Jesus (exemplifying purity of heart) behaved much differently than those who wanted to stone her (exemplifying injustice and hypocrisy). Their concern for sexual purity was apparently of no value with regard to virtue in that case.