Is the Court of the Gentiles a bad place to be?

[Messianic Jewboy]

If the Temple was still present and as a non Jew you are washed in His blood and co-heirs is the Court of the Gentiles a bad place to be?

 

[HannibalFlavius]

If the Temple was still present and as a non Jew you are washed in His blood and co-heirs is the Court of the Gentiles a bad place to be?

Those who are standing in the brazen court are doomed, and the majority are there now.


Revelation 11 isn't a measurement of a building, it is the measurement of people.

The people in the outer court are not counted, but the people in the two sections of the temple proper are counted.

They are counted and they receive a mark in their forehead, and these are the first fruits.

These people are given power.<staff edit>

A civil war breaks out between the people occupying the outer court and the people of the two sections of the Temper proper.

These two witnesses of God fight against the gentiles who were not considered to be true Israel when the line was drawn in the sand.


Each person has a court that represents their flesh, and each person has a Holy place where there is showbread, and the light of the 7 characteristics of God.


Each person has a Holy of Holies where only one man will enter on one day a year.


We each lives our lives in one of these 3 places, and there is no doubt where the true servants live.


A walk into the Temple is a progressive walk with God.

With each step, there is a progression of more precious items and furniture.


You are the Temple, where can you always be found?
In the outer court of darkness where people will weep and gnash they teeth?

To be found in the outer court is a bad thing.

 

[Moriah Ruth 777]

If that is the case, then I am doomed..

 

[HannibalFlavius]

If that is the case, then I am doomed..

I think I am doomed to be amongst the majority but I have me reasons.


There is no reason for you to think you are doomed.


I don't mean that all Gentile Christians are doomed, but there is a way to obtain the name of Israel so that you are considered Israel.

But Only Israel obtains the reward of first resurrection.

Only those considered to be true Israel become the first fruits of Revelation 14 when they are birthed into a new kingdom.


You can be among those listed, but you have to be considered Israel in order to receive the mark of protection between your eyes.

 

[Yahudim]

Objection Your Honor. The question assumes facts not in evidence.

 

[Messianic Jewboy]

I think I am doomed to be amongst the majority but I have me reasons.


There is no reason for you to think you are doomed.


I don't mean that all Gentile Christians are doomed, but there is a way to obtain the name of Israel so that you are considered Israel.

But Only Israel obtains the reward of first resurrection.

Only those considered to be true Israel become the first fruits of Revelation 14 when they are birthed into a new kingdom.


You can be among those listed, but you have to be considered Israel in order to receive the mark of protection between your eyes.

What about the believers who weren't Israel when the Temple was still present and couldn't get passed the Court of the Gentiles?

 

[daq]

Romans 15:8-10 ASV
8. For I say that Christ hath been made a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, that he might confirm the promises given unto the fathers,
9. and that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy; as it is written, Therefore will I give praise unto thee among the Gentiles, And sing unto thy name.
10. And again he saith, Rejoice, ye Gentiles, with his people.

Hebrews 10:19-22 KJV
19. Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
20. By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
21. And having an high priest over the house of God;
22. Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

If that is the case, then I am doomed..

Hebrews 10:35-39 KJV
35. Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.
36. For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.
37. For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.
38. Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.
39. But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

 

[Messianic Jewboy]

Romans 15:8-10 ASV
8. For I say that Christ hath been made a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, that he might confirm the promises given unto the fathers,
9. and that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy; as it is written, Therefore will I give praise unto thee among the Gentiles, And sing unto thy name.
10. And again he saith, Rejoice, ye Gentiles, with his people.

Hebrews 10:19-22 KJV
19. Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
20. By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
21. And having an high priest over the house of God;
22. Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.



Hebrews 10:35-39 KJV
35. Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.
36. For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.
37. For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.
38. Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.
39. But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

Context is important. Hebrews was written to believing Jews.

 

[Moriah Ruth 777]

DAQ comes to the rescue..Phew!!!!

 

[daq]

Context is important. Hebrews was written to believing Jews.

So they say, and to each his own, but I say that the entire volume of the Book is written to the All Israel of the Great King, blessed be He.

 

[Moriah Ruth 777]

ok, someone deleted some posts here..TISHRI????

Or maybe I am losing it.

 

[Moriah Ruth 777]

Yes DAQ, you are right. It was written by Jewish people to the nation of Israel. However, whoever came in from the outside were also considered to be part of Israel and this is IF they obeyed the laws of God.

Ruth is a good example.

Moriah Ruth

 

[Messianic Jewboy]

So they say, and to each his own, but I say that the entire volume of the Book is written to the All Israel of the Great King, blessed be He.

Right all Israel meaning specifically Jewish believers.

 

[daq]

ok, someone deleted some posts here..TISHRI????
Or maybe I am losing it.

Yes DAQ, you are right. It was written by Jewish people to the nation of Israel. However, whoever came in from the outside were also considered to be part of Israel and this is IF they obeyed the laws of God.

Ruth is a good example.

Moriah Ruth

Perhaps you may be reading through too quickly? Please allow me to clarify:

It was mspossoff who said "Context is important. Hebrews was written to believing Jews."

I may be wrong but it seems you may have confused his statement with my reply to his statement?

 

[daq]

Right all Israel meaning specifically Jewish believers.

"Remember the days of old, consider the years of many generations: ask thy father, and he will shew thee; thy elders, and they will tell thee. When the most high divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the sons of Israel", (12 x 6 = 72 nations of Genesis 10).

 

[visionary]

Those who are standing in the brazen court are doomed, and the majority are there now.


Revelation 11 isn't a measurement of a building, it is the measurement of people.

The people in the outer court are not counted, but the people in the two sections of the temple proper are counted.

They are counted and they receive a mark in their forehead, and these are the first fruits.

These people are given power, while Christian gentiles are not.

A civil war breaks out between the people occupying the outer court and the people of the two sections of the Temper proper.

These two witnesses of God fight against the gentiles who were not considered to be true Israel when the line was drawn in the sand.


Each person has a court that represents their flesh, and each person has a Holy place where there is showbread, and the light of the 7 characteristics of God.


Each person has a Holy of Holies where only one man will enter on one day a year.


We each lives our lives in one of these 3 places, and there is no doubt where the true servants live.


A walk into the Temple is a progressive walk with God.

With each step, there is a progression of more precious items and furniture.


You are the Temple, where can you always be found?
In the outer court of darkness where people will weep and gnash they teeth?

To be found in the outer court is a bad thing.

Those in the outer court are sacrificed for His name sake. They are not doomed, they are the multitude that die for His name sake. They are clinging to the cross [the altar of sacrifice] and are baptised in the laver. They have not spiritually become His royal priesthood and entered in the ministry of the temple.

Hebrews 6
Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
6 Therefore, leaving behind the initial lessons about the Messiah, let us go on to maturity, not laying again the foundation of turning from works that lead to death, trusting God, 2 and instruction about washings, s’mikhah, the resurrection of the dead and eternal punishment. 3 And, God willing, this is what we will do. 4 For when people have once been enlightened, tasted the heavenly gift, become sharers in the Ruach HaKodesh, 5 and tasted the goodness of God’s Word and the powers of the ‘olam haba — 6 and then have fallen away — it is impossible to renew them so that they turn from their sin, as long as for themselves they keep executing the Son of God on the stake all over again and keep holding him up to public contempt.

 

[visionary]

Right all Israel meaning specifically Jewish believers.

and all those who have attached themselves.. like Cornelius

 

[Messianic Jewboy]

and all those who have attached themselves.. like Cornelius

Cornelius even through 'washed in His blood' wouldn't have been able to make a sacrifice like a Jew who was washed in His blood, right?

 

[visionary]

Cornelius even through 'washed in His blood' wouldn't have been able to make a sacrifice like a Jew who was washed in His blood, right?

really? what difference do you see? I see the same sacrifice for the same reasons as is for all of us who see Yeshua as our only hope of salvation.

 

[Messianic Jewboy]

really? what difference do you see? I see the same sacrifice for the same reasons as is for all of us who see Yeshua as our only hope of salvation.

I'm referring to when the Temple was/is present. Unless you think Messiah will change things pertaining to.