What Would Falsify the Flood? (2)

[dad]

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Deceptive, aren't they? But it still doesn't change that fact that men always appear as men.

Smart. Clandestine. Efficient. Good officers of His court.

But that wasn't the question -- you're arguing against what it doesn't say because you've already admitted that you don't know the first thing about what it does say.

Saying anything but what we should say is actually very telling!

And where is this in the Koran?

Hey, that John guy studies like a bangie. I give him the benefit of the doubt on matters of research.

Same question.

"
A Muslim Scholar Happily Admits
That There Is No Salvation Apart From Muhammad!"

A Muslim Scholar Admits That There Is No Salvation Apart From Muhammad!


But aren't you wandering a little far afield?

 

[TLK Valentine]

] Smart. Clandestine. Efficient. Good officers of His court.

The smartest, most clandestine, and most efficient of them all, however, proved to be a very bad officer of His court -- or did he?

Saying anything but what we should say is actually very telling!

I see, so anything which doesn't parrot the Bible is against it? Sounds pretty sad and insecure to me.

Hey, that John guy studies like a bangie. I give him the benefit of the doubt on matters of research.

I think you mean "banshee." And all you have to admit is you don't know, so you're trusting people with an agenda.

"
A Muslim Scholar Happily Admits
That There Is No Salvation Apart From Muhammad!"

A Muslim Scholar Admits That There Is No Salvation Apart From Muhammad!


But aren't you wandering a little far afield?

Nope -- I'm trying to keep you on topic -- What. Does. The. Koran. Actually. Say. That. Contradicts. Gabriel?

 

[dad]

The smartest, most clandestine, and most efficient of them all, however, proved to be a very bad officer of His court -- or did he?

If you mean Satan, he is the enemy of our souls. He is no longer an officer, but is being demoted somethin fierce.

I see, so anything which doesn't parrot the Bible is against it? Sounds pretty sad and insecure to me.

Anything opposed to God's revealed word to man is not from God. If it was in agreement Jesus would be front and center.

I think you mean "banshee." And all you have to admit is you don't know, so you're trusting people with an agenda.

To a point, I do allow for people in a field of expertise to have the benefit of the doubt. The exception of course is when their field IS doubt!

Nope -- I'm trying to keep you on topic -- What. Does. The. Koran. Actually. Say. That. Contradicts. Gabriel?

The koran isn't the topic. Work on that.

 

[TLK Valentine]

If you mean Satan, he is the enemy of our souls. He is no longer an officer, but is being demoted somethin fierce.

And all for being just a little too smart, efficient, and clandestine -- let's hope God doesn't make that mistake again.

Anything opposed to God's revealed word to man is not from God. If it was in agreement Jesus would be front and center.

So anything that doesn't openly praise Jesus in every other sentence is against him and is an enemy? Even God's not that insecure about Himself...

To a point, I do allow for people in a field of expertise to have the benefit of the doubt. The exception of course is when their field IS doubt!

Including yourself? you've never done anything but doubt science and history that you couldn't explotit

The koran isn't the topic. Work on that.

So, when asked what Gabriel says in the Koran that contradicts what he said in the Bible, you chose to slink away. That is the topic.

keep slinking, dad.

 

[dad]

And all for being just a little too smart, efficient, and clandestine -- let's hope God doesn't make that mistake again.

I can't say that it was a mistake.

So anything that doesn't openly praise Jesus in every other sentence is against him and is an enemy? Even God's not that insecure about Himself...

That which puts Christ as a prophet and not really risen from the dead, and God is quite another matter.

Including yourself? you've never done anything but doubt science and history that you couldn't explotit

That leaves little then, I can exploit it all!

So, when asked what Gabriel says in the Koran that contradicts what he said in the Bible, you chose to slink away. That is the topic.

No. The topic is not that. Obviously Gabriel of the bible was concerned primarily with Jesus. The Koran sure ain't. It wasn't Gabe in that record at all.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I can't say that it was a mistake.

Didn't realize you were so pro-Devil.

That which puts Christ as a prophet and not really risen from the dead, and God is quite another matter.

an irrelevant one.

That leaves little then, I can exploit it all!

Sadly true -- there's really nothing you can't exploit for your own personal gain, is there?

No. The topic is not that. Obviously Gabriel of the bible was concerned primarily with Jesus. The Koran sure ain't. It wasn't Gabe in that record at all.

Just because you can't blather on about anything but a single topic doesn't mean Gabriel cannot -- remember, as an Angel, he's better than you.

Gabriel covered Jesus in the Bible, and moved on to other topics for the Koran. Exploit that.

 

[dad]

Didn't realize you were so pro-Devil.



an irrelevant one.



Sadly true -- there's really nothing you can't exploit for your own personal gain, is there?

It is not personal gain that is involved in illumination of darkness.

Just because you can't blather on about anything but a single topic doesn't mean Gabriel cannot -- remember, as an Angel, he's better than you.

He talked to Daniel, giving the time till Messiah would come and details. He also talked to Mary, telling her about Jesus. Gabriel specialized in talking about the promised Messiah, and anyone that called Him a mere prophet, or disses the Resurrection etc is sure not hearing from Gabe in reality.

Gabriel covered Jesus in the Bible, and moved on to other topics for the Koran. Exploit that.

False. It could not be the same angel. It had to be an angel of the other side. Chew on that.

 

[Loudmouth]

It is not personal gain that is involved in illumination of darkness.

He talked to Daniel, giving the time till Messiah would come and details. He also talked to Mary, telling her about Jesus. Gabriel specialized in talking about the promised Messiah, and anyone that called Him a mere prophet, or disses the Resurrection etc is sure not hearing from Gabe in reality.

False. It could not be the same angel. It had to be an angel of the other side. Chew on that.

What features would a geologic formation need in order for you to accept it as falsifying a recent global flood?

 

[dad]

What features would a geologic formation need in order for you to accept it as falsifying a recent global flood?

First we might ask where in the reord of layers the flood was. Do you know? How then could you really test?

 

[Loudmouth]

First we might ask where in the reord of layers the flood was. Do you know? How then could you really test?

I am asking how those tests would be done.

What features would a geologic formation need in order for you to accept it as falsifying a recent global flood?

 

[dad]

I am asking how those tests would be done.

What features would a geologic formation need in order for you to accept it as falsifying a recent global flood?

Well, we might look for stuff that is usually found in space and deep under the earth.

 

[Loudmouth]

Well, we might look for stuff that is usually found in space and deep under the earth.

Like what?

 

[dad]

Like what?

Anything will do. How about Iridium?

 

[Loudmouth]

Anything will do. How about Iridium?

What type of irridium layer, if found, would falsify a recent global flood?

 

[dad]

What type of irridium layer, if found, would falsify a recent global flood?

The only one we have does the opposite! So why invent silly questions?

 

[Loudmouth]

The only one we have does the opposite! So why invent silly questions?

So what features would an irridium layer need in order to falsify a recent global flood?

 

[OllieFranz]

The only one we have does the opposite! So why invent silly questions?

The point of having something that can falsify a hypothesis is to test that hypothesis. So it should involve something whose certainty has not yet been established. Saying that X would be falsified if the the sky were green is not a valid test if we have already determined that the sky is blue. In that case, looking for a green sky would, indeed, be inventing silly questions.

Ideally, the falsification test is one that has been assumed by the old theory, to have one answer, and the new hypothesis presents a totally different answer. Even better if that answer can be demonstrated in different ways by different tests. General Relativity posited that gravity can affect light waves, in contradiction to Newtonian physics that said it can't. The tests included searching for (and finding) gravity lenses --a strong gravity source, a large planet or a sun, can bend light, and thus act much like an optic lens -- and predicting and explaining some odd conditions in Mercury's orbit around the sun. Those explanations led to another aspect of the GR hypothesis, and a new prediction (Energy equals mass times the speed of light squared). So the building and firing of the A-Bomb, and the building and testing of the H-Bomb are "proofs" of GR. They could have falsified either GR or Newton. When tested it was Newton who failed.

So what differences do any of the accepted scientific theories that Creationists conflate into the term "Evolution" present from the predictions of the so-called "literalist" or "Biblical" account, that can be tested for and that have not yet been tested and answered in favor of the scientific theories?

 

[dad]

So what features would an irridium layer need in order to falsify a recent global flood?

Try to deal with the one we have. Anything in it that says there was no flood? You have nothing. God says there was a flood. I believe Him.

 

[CabVet]

God says there was a flood. I believe Him.

Did he say it during a private conversation with you or were there other people in the room?

 

[Loudmouth]

Try to deal with the one we have.

Try dealing with the topic.

What features would a geologic formation need in order to falsify a recent global flood?

God says there was a flood.

Yet another christian whose god is a book.