Who has read the Book of Mormon?

[LegacyJB]

Would you be kind enough to point out for us, then, where in the Bible - or even in the Book of Mormon, or the Pearl of Great Price, or the Doctrine and Covenants - it tells when Jesus Christ, being the Great Exemplar, set the standard by obeying this great commandment Himself by participating in His own eternal marriage sealing while He was on the earth?

I was pretty serious with the massive trinity comment. This Trinity theory says God is one. That guy said we'll all be one. I was asking if he believes we'll be one like the trinity theory says about God. Don't assume.

Why is it purely LDS doctrine? Because this is the only church with all of the revealed truths God has given to man.

Can I say a marriage of the Savior can be found in any written record? No. Something not found doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Can you find the literal body of Jesus Christ on the earth? We don't know if he is married or not but he never gave any commandments he hasn't kept himself.

 

[Jake255]

That's funny because marriage being eternal is a doctrine taught by the ancient apostles, specifically Peter.

There is nothing funny about it because what you are speaking is false. The Bible says there is no marriage - nor will anyone be given in marriage in heaven - period. Yet, where else can an alive person actually marry a dead one - oh, yeah - that'd be mormons.

Jesus came to redefine the family? Weird. I thought He came to ransom man from sin through His redeeming sacrifice.

And this would be another reason why you are so confused about what Jesus actually DID. He came to set up His Kingdom here, have you not learned this yet? He came, set up His Kingdom, defined WHO was in that Kingdom (who is the family) and as a result of all of this, He offers salvation.

Oh, you mean like your trinity belief? OK. So you believe we'll become one massive Trinity. Is that it?

Could you please post the post # of me stating anything about the trinity? thanks, I'd appreciate it.

Thinking about the togetherness of the family IS the spiritual mindset. No God, except a powerless one, would not allow marriage to be eternal. Why did the Savior tell Peter that whatever he bound on earth would be bound in heaven? If a marriage is bound on earth by God's authority it shall be bound in heaven. Do you believe Jesus was fooling Peter? Is a marriage that is bound on earth by proper authority not bound in heaven?

You have no idea what you are talking about - none. Seriously, you need to get a clue, dude.

Only in Jesus Christ's church is the doctrine of eternal marriage found. This is true doctrine and I say it by the name of Christ Himself. If I were to believe death breaks marriage I would be saying God is not Almighty.

Your doctrine is false.

 

[Jake255]

I was pretty serious with the massive trinity comment. This Trinity theory says God is one. That guy said we'll all be one. I was asking if he believes we'll be one like the trinity theory says about God. Don't assume.

Why is it purely LDS doctrine? Because this is the only church with all of the revealed truths God has given to man.

Can I say a marriage of the Savior can be found in any written record? No. Something not found doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Can you find the literal body of Jesus Christ on the earth? We don't know if he is married or not but he never gave any commandments he hasn't kept himself.

Have you never read the prayer that Jesus prayed in John? Seriously? Dude, you need to read the BIBLE.

Jesus prayed that we would all be ONE as He is ONE with His Father - this has NOTHING to do with the Trinity -but everything to do with being ONE in Spirit.

Do you believe the Body of Christ is divided into separate units?

Here is exactly what Jesus said about us being ONE.

John 17:21 that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

Romans 12:5 so in Christ we, though many, form one body, and each member belongs to all the others.

 

[Moodshadow]

Lol it's a question. It's about how Christians view families.

Are you aware how many zillions of dollars and countless hours and who knows how much effort by the LDS church's PR department you have just effectively undone with this one remark, in which you have disassociated yourself from Christians?

 

[LegacyJB]

There is nothing funny about it because what you are speaking is false. The Bible says there is no marriage - nor will anyone be given in marriage in heaven - period. Yet, where else can an alive person actually marry a dead one - oh, yeah - that'd be mormons.

And this would be another reason why you are so confused about what Jesus actually DID. He came to set up His Kingdom here, have you not learned this yet? He came, set up His Kingdom, defined WHO was in that Kingdom (who is the family) and as a result of all of this, He offers salvation.

Could you please post the post # of me stating anything about the trinity? thanks, I'd appreciate it.

You have no idea what you are talking about - none. Seriously, you need to get a clue, dude.

Your doctrine is false.

I know full well what I'm taking about. Marriage is meant to be eternal. You say I don't have a clue simply because I disagree with you. Can the priesthood bind in heaven what is bound on earth or can it not?

 

[South Bound]

I know full well what I'm taking about. Marriage is meant to be eternal.

"For when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven." - Mark 12:25

Can the priesthood bind in heaven what is bound on earth or can it not?

Are you referring to Matthew 16:19, that has nothing to do with marriage.

I've read the Bible multiple times. The Lord's prayer is great. The Father's will shall certainly be done.

Be one as they are. Well, you claim they're a trinity so this indicates a trinity-like oneness.

No. The Trinity is one in nature. Jesus was talking about one in unity.

You are the one who need to read the Bible. I've done so numerous times.[/QUOTE]

So you say.

Already went over that. Go back and reread. Do none of you pay attention?

In which post?

 

[LegacyJB]

Have you never read the prayer that Jesus prayed in John? Seriously? Dude, you need to read the BIBLE.

Jesus prayed that we would all be ONE as He is ONE with His Father - this has NOTHING to do with the Trinity -but everything to do with being ONE in Spirit.

Do you believe the Body of Christ is divided into separate units?

Here is exactly what Jesus said about us being ONE.

John 17:21 that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

Romans 12:5 so in Christ we, though many, form one body, and each member belongs to all the others.

I've read the Bible multiple times. The Lord's prayer is great. The Father's will shall certainly be done.

Be one as they are. Well, you claim they're a trinity so this indicates a trinity-like oneness.

You are the one who need to read the Bible. I've done so numerous times.

 

[LegacyJB]

"For when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven." - Mark 12:25



Are you referring to Matthew 16:19, that has nothing to do with marriage.

Already went over that. Go back and reread. Do none of you pay attention?

 

[Jake255]

I've read the Bible multiple times. The Lord's prayer is great. The Father's will shall certainly be done.

Be one as they are. Well, you claim they're a trinity so this indicates a trinity-like oneness.

You are the one who need to read the Bible. I've done so numerous times.

You really are not "getting it" - I gave you a passage and you did not understand what it meant. You are not reading the Bible with spiritual eyes - only filtered ones.

That passage has NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING to do with the trinity. I really feel sorry for you, dude.

 

[Jake255]

Already went over that. Go back and reread. Do none of you pay attention?

You did not "go over it", what you did was said the Bible was lying, that what it said, doesn't really mean what it says, you're saying what Joseph Smith said it says.

Joseph Smith tried interpreting the Bible, the sad thing is, that's not how the Bible works, it interprets us, not the other way around.

 

[southcountry]

I know full well what I'm taking about. Marriage is meant to be eternal. You say I don't have a clue simply because I disagree with you. Can the priesthood bind in heaven what is bound on earth or can it not?

You cant just make up false doctrine with rituals and think you are going to have what you want in heaven. Thats not what those verses meant.

Let me ask you a question. Do you think angels are eternal? ( excluding the fallen ones) Do they die a physical death?

 

[Jake255]

I've read the Bible multiple times. The Lord's prayer is great. The Father's will shall certainly be done.

The quote I gave you has NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING to do with the Lord's prayer.

I did not quote the Lord's prayer. It's obvious communication with you is impossible. Reread the scripture I gave you - maybe in it's entirety. Read what it says.

 

[Phantasman]

Not in the traditional sense. There is Outer Darkness, but only the Sons of Perdition would be sent there. And there are very few who have committed sins grievous enough to be Sons of Perdition.

Yep. The non Canonicals agree. The Father is light, the inner. Hades is the removed from him, the outer area. Darkness.

"Still for a third time I went - I am the light which exists in the light, I am the remembrance of the Pronoia - that I might enter into the midst of darkness and the inside of Hades. And I filled my face with the light of the completion of their aeon. And I entered into the midst of their prison, which is the prison of the body.-Secret John

 

[LegacyJB]

You did not "go over it", what you did was said the Bible was lying, that what it said, doesn't really mean what it says, you're saying what Joseph Smith said it says.

Joseph Smith tried interpreting the Bible, the sad thing is, that's not how the Bible works, it interprets us, not the other way around.

I never said anything close to that. Jesus was not teaching that all marriages dissolve at death, only those performed by tradition. Those sealed by the priesthood keys, the same keys given to Peter to bind on earth and heaven, are eternal. I believe what the Bible says. I believe what Jesus says. Eternal families is true doctrine. You have no idea how strange it is to hear that there are people who actually buy into the "there's no eternal marriage" junk. The person who teaches marriage isn't eternal is Lucifer himself. How can any Christian believe in such devilish doctrine? Your kids won't be your kids, spouse your spouse, or parents your parents? What a dark doctrine indeed. That is a mockery to God, His grace and mercy, and His love and power.

 

[LegacyJB]

The quote I gave you has NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING to do with the Lord's prayer.

I did not quote the Lord's prayer. It's obvious communication with you is impossible. Reread the scripture I gave you - maybe in it's entirety. Read what it says.

You asked if I've read the Lord's prayer. Reread your own question.

Communication with someone who believes families aren't eternal is impossible because no person believing this has light in them. You might notice this is a topic I'm heavily bold about. I really feel sorry for those who think marriage isn't eternal.

 

[Phantasman]

You asked if I've read the Lord's prayer. Reread your own question.

Communication with someone who believes families aren't eternal is impossible because no person believing this has light in them. You might notice this is a topic I'm heavily bold about. I really feel sorry for those who think marriage isn't eternal.

Thanks for feeling sorry.

Becoming one flesh tells me marriage is limited to flesh.

 

[LegacyJB]

Thanks for feeling sorry.

Becoming one flesh tells me marriage is limited to flesh.

Except this was said by prophets in the Bible, not some random guy. The prophets were speaking for God. Peter teaches that couples will be heirs of the kingdom together, not separately.

 

[southcountry]

Genesis2





18 And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
19 And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
22 And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.




Why did God create a woman from Adams DNA blueprint, and if a gender is so important then why didnt God just create both man and woman at the same time?



Answer: its because that is what was given to THIS world. Just as Enoch, Jesus, and the bible state.

 

[southcountry]

You asked if I've read the Lord's prayer. Reread your own question.

Communication with someone who believes families aren't eternal is impossible because no person believing this has light in them. You might notice this is a topic I'm heavily bold about. I really feel sorry for those who think marriage isn't eternal.

I feel sorry for anyone who thinks more of their family than they do of God.

This was one of the points to be made with Abrahams sacrafice.

 

[southcountry]

Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

This is a difficult verse for some.....Who can understand it?