How Ken Cuccinelli Blew It

[AirPo]

I like to see this guy run on his own platform!

Brent Bozell is making no apologies. The chairman of ForAmerica, a conservative grassroots group, said, “The moderate branch of the Republican Party turned its back on Cuccinelli, and that hurt him big time. When this is all over, win or lose, there’s got to be a conversation about that.” But in the dialogue Bozell envisions, the Tea Party isn’t compromising its principles and groveling for support. Like many in the movement, he points to the failure of mainstream Republicans, such as former presidential nominees Mitt Romney and John McCain. If anything, Bozell said, Cuccinelli should have been more aggressive in defending conservatism.

“Running toward the middle is the old paradigm,” he said. “Politics is solidifying and mobilizing your base—and the hell with the middle.”

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[kermit]

I like to see this guy run on his own platform!





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The right seems to have 1 tool in it's political toolbox; move farther to the right.

If they win to ensure future victory their plan is move futher to the right.

If they loose to ensure future victory their plan is move futher to the right.

The reality is that that polical tool is wrong for both scenerios. If one wins it because voters like where they are in the political spectrum and a move either way can hurt them. If they loose, it's because they are too far to one side or another and alienate independent and moderates.

Being a policitical extremist plays well in primaries, but not in elections.

 

[BostonTzar]

Did I hear right that one of Obama's bundlers was the one running the campaign of the libertarian who siphoned off over 6% of the total vote? Sounds a bit like astro-turfing if true.

 

[Savior2006]

The right seems to have 1 tool in it's political toolbox; move farther to the right.

If they win to ensure future victory their plan is move futher to the right.

If they loose to ensure future victory their plan is move futher to the right.

The reality is that that polical tool is wrong for both scenerios. If one wins it because voters like where they are in the political spectrum and a move either way can hurt them. If they loose, it's because they are too far to one side or another and alienate independent and moderates.

Being a policitical extremist plays well in primaries, but not in elections.

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“Running toward the middle is the old paradigm,” Tea Party dude said. “Politics is solidifying and mobilizing your base—and the hell with the middle.”

You know what? I agree with him. I think Republicans in the future should make themselves as unappealing to moderates as they possibly can.

 

[ZephyrWiccan]

I like to see this guy run on his own platform!





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I've already seen the Tea Partiers try to blame the libertarian candidate and are claiming he is a "Democrat Plant" -despite the fact that the last poll before the election showed that when asked if they would vote Mcauliffe or Cucinelli if Sarvis hadn't been running, Sarvis voters went largely for Mcauliffe:
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[NightHawkeye]

Did I hear right that one of Obama's bundlers was the one running the campaign of the libertarian who siphoned off over 6% of the total vote? Sounds a bit like astro-turfing if true.

Yep.

I find it curious that the Democrats could only squeak out a narrow victory after splitting the Republican vote, outspending the Republican five to one and having the "Republican elite" pull funding from Cuccinelli.

While Democrats may have won the battle, it hardly looks good for the long term.

 

[keith99]

From the article:


“Running toward the middle is the old paradigm,” Tea Party dude said. “Politics is solidifying and mobilizing your base—and the hell with the middle.”

You know what? I agree with him. I think Republicans in the future should make themselves as unappealing to moderates as they possibly can.

Smart liberals and stupid conservatives seem to agree on this.

 

[ZephyrWiccan]

Yep.

I find it curious that the Democrats could only squeak out a narrow victory after splitting the Republican vote, outspending the Republican five to one and having the "Republican elite" pull funding from Cuccinelli.

While Democrats may have won the battle, it hardly looks good for the long term.

Democrats did not split the Republican vote.

As to the rest, I agree, McAuliffe was a pretty out-there candidate and he only barely managed to win and that after outspending by 2.5 times what Cuccinellit won.

My family in virginia says that neither side was a good choice, the Democrat side especially was shady. They (lifelong democrats) went for the libertarian this time around rather than vote for either Mcauliffe or Cuccinelli

 

[BostonTzar]

Yep.

I find it curious that the Democrats could only squeak out a narrow victory after splitting the Republican vote, outspending the Republican five to one and having the "Republican elite" pull funding from Cuccinelli.

While Democrats may have won the battle, it hardly looks good for the long term.

I have to wonder how much the changing demographics of northern VA affected the outcome. With the massive growth of government in Washington, there're few choices on where to live. You've gotten the MD burbs and northern VA unless you want to live in DC itself which the traffic congestion kind of shows is not happening all that often. So with the influx of government union employees, I'd expect the ratio of R vs D voters change.

Now for the D's to have such a poor showing, not even hitting 50%, with an influx of unionized workers, now that speaks volumes.

 

[epluribus36]

From the article:


“Running toward the middle is the old paradigm,” Tea Party dude said. “Politics is solidifying and mobilizing your base—and the hell with the middle.”

You know what? I agree with him. I think Republicans in the future should make themselves as unappealing to moderates as they possibly can.

Awesome! I think if I were a Republican......I'd become a Democrat really quick!

 

[abdAlSalam]

Thread title is extra funny considering how Cuccinelli feels about oral sex.

 

[TerranceL]

http://www.politifact.com/virginia/...elli-and-mcauliffe-performed-poorly-truth-o-/

Both men are pretty good liars.

Oh well.

 

[AceHero]

Typical politicians, huh?

 

[USincognito]

Did I hear right that one of Obama's bundlers was the one running the campaign of the libertarian who siphoned off over 6% of the total vote? Sounds a bit like astro-turfing if true.

There was no Libertarian candidate in the Lieutenant Governors race, but the Democrat won by over 10% and 230,000 votes.

What's your conspiracy theory for that one?

 

[USincognito]

"Brent Bozell is making no apologies. The chairman of ForAmerica, a conservative grassroots group,"

Brent Bozo has like 5 jobs running or working for "grassroots" groups. Media Research Center, Parents Television Council, this ForAmerica thing, how can they all be "grassroots"?

"Like many in the movement, he points to the failure of mainstream Republicans, such as former presidential nominees Mitt Romney and John McCain."

As opposed to successful presidential candidates like Michele Bachmann and Frothy Rick Santorum?
As opposed to Cuccinelli, E.W. Jackson (the Lt. Gov. candidate) and Dean Young?
As opposed to 2010's successful slate of Christine O'Donnell, Sharon Angle, Carly Fiorina, Joe Miller for the Senate. Carl Paladino for NY Governor?

Brent Bozo needs to exit the Conservisphere sometime and reacquaint himself with the real world.

 

[Oafman]

Virginia governor's race shows global warming science denial is a losing political stance

 

[Tea Party dude]

Thread title is extra funny considering how Cuccinelli feels about oral sex.

Since this post of yours found it necessary to bring the level of conversation to your type of entertainment, why not share with us your thoughts of what you believe Cuccinelli "feels" about "oral sex" and also clue us in about what you believe God "feels" about oral sex?

 

[Tea Party dude]

Virginia governor's race shows global warming science denial is a losing political stance

Considering that the "science" and data are showing 17-year pause in global warming, you would think so.

There has been no statistically significant increase in world average surface temperatures since the beginning of 1997.​

The views represented by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) – have underestimated the role of natural cycles and exaggerated that of greenhouse gases for years.​

Imagine that? Every 17 year old student and younger has basically never experienced any global warming, yet they have been fed the lies for years and years through way of government school indoctrination, media hype and political panderers.​

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Considering that the "science" and data are showing 17-year pause in global warming, you would think so.

There has been no statistically significant increase in world average surface temperatures since the beginning of 1997.​

The views represented by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) – have underestimated the role of natural cycles and exaggerated that of greenhouse gases for years.​

Imagine that? Every 17 year old student and younger has basically never experienced any global warming, yet they have been fed the lies for years and years through way of government school indoctrination, media hype and political panderers.​

 

[Tea Party dude]

"Brent Bozell is making no apologies. The chairman of ForAmerica, a conservative grassroots group,"

Brent Bozo has like 5 jobs running or working for "grassroots" groups. Media Research Center, Parents Television Council, this ForAmerica thing, how can they all be "grassroots"?

Because they were not created by a national political party and are not funded by government? I really like Media Research Center, they do a great service.

"Like many in the movement, he points to the failure of mainstream Republicans, such as former presidential nominees Mitt Romney and John McCain."

As opposed to successful presidential candidates like Michele Bachmann and Frothy Rick Santorum?
As opposed to Cuccinelli, E.W. Jackson (the Lt. Gov. candidate) and Dean Young?
As opposed to 2010's successful slate of Christine O'Donnell, Sharon Angle, Carly Fiorina, Joe Miller for the Senate. Carl Paladino for NY Governor?

Brent Bozo needs to exit the Conservisphere sometime and reacquaint himself with the real world.

Well since they "mainstream Republicans" are even now grooming Chris Christie to be the next in line, Brent making the obvious known doesn't make him a "Bozo" in my opinion. I take that to mean your a Democrat?