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What the Bible says about the EARTH. Do you believe this?

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Do you believe what the Word of God in Sacred Writing has to say about the earth? ... or do you believe man's agendas in "modern" education?


" 1 Sam. 2:8 – “For the pillars of the earth are the Lord’s, and on them he has set the world.”

2 Sam. 22:16; Psalm 18:15 – “Then the channels of the sea were seen, the foundations of the world were laid bare...” (Describing the earth as having “foundations” is consistent with an earth that is fixed and established and does not move, as many Scriptures reveal).

1 Chron. 16:30 – “yea, the world stands firm, never to be moved.” This and many other passages say very plainly that the earth does not move.

Job 26:7 – “He stretches out the north over the void, and hangs the earth upon nothing.”

Job 38:4; cf. Job 9:6 – “Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?”

Psalm 8:29 – “...when he marked out the foundations of the earth.”

Psalm 93:1 – “Yea, the world is established; it shall never be moved.”

Psalm 96:10 – “Yea, the world is established, it shall never be moved.”

Psalm 102:25 – “Of old thou didst lay the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the work of thy hands.”

Psalm 104:5 – “Thou didst set the earth on its foundations, so that it should never be shaken.”

Psalm 119:90 – “thou has established the earth, and it stands firm.”

Isaiah 24:18 – “…for the windows of heaven are opened, and the foundations of the earth tremble.”

Isaiah 48:13 – “My hand laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand spread out the heavens...”

Isaiah 66:1 – “Thus says the Lord: ‘Heaven is my throne and the earth is my footstool.”

When the Scriptures say the world is “established” (in Hebrew, “kun”), it indicates that the establishment is ongoing. See, for example, 1 Chron. 22:10, Judges 16:26,29 and Ezra 3:3 where “kun” is used to explain an ongoing lack of motion.

The only time Scripture says the earth will “move” (in Hebrew, “mot” - see “mot” in Job 41:23; Psalm 125:1; 140:10; and Isa. 41:7) is in the context of the end of the world, where God will come in judgment (e.g. Psalm 76:8). This coincides with the apocalyptic literature of, inter alia, Matt. 24:29-30 and 2 Peter 3:10-13, but never suggests actual motion.

Gen. 1:1-5; 14-19 - God created the earth on the first day, and the sun, moon and stars on the fourth day. God created them to “give light upon the earth.” The heavenly bodies were therefore created for the earth, to adorn it, and to mark its seasons. The earth is God’s focal point. This ordering is another indicator that the earth is the center of the universe. How could the sun be the center, if it wasn’t created until the fourth day? This also raises the question: How did the earth have “evening and morning” on days one to three, before the sun was created on day four? Scripture reveals this is because the universe has light that is independent of the sun and stars. In fact, St. Thomas Aquinas hypothesized that God created the sun and stars on day four from this effusive light that He created on day one (just like God created man on day six from the dirt He created on day one). This effusive light is what brought about the “evening and morning” periods of days one through three.

Job 38:18-20,24 – in these verses, although Job knows the sun gives light, God asks Job “where is the way to the dwelling of light” and “where is the way the light is divided?” Job cannot answer God’s questions. Why can’t he, if Job knows that the sun gives light? God is referring to the light He created without any dimensional source. For example, Psalm 74:16 says “You have prepared the light and the sun,” which distinguishes the two sources of light. Ecclesiastes 12:1-2 also says “Remember your Creator…before the sun and the light, and the moon and the stars are darkened.” The sacred writer distinguishes between “the sun” and “the light,” and also indicates that there are four separate sources of light.

Gen. 1:1; 2:1,4; Psalm 113:6; Jer. 10:11; 32:17; 51:48; Joel 3:16; Hag. 2:6,21; Jud. 13:18; cf. Psalm 102:25; Isaiah 24:18; 48:13 – here are some examples where God distinguishes “between the heavens and the earth.” The earth is unique and distinguishable from the rest of the heavens.

Gen. 14:19,22; Ex. 20:11; 31:17; Deut. 4:26; 30:19; 31:28; 2 Sam. 18:9; 2 Kings 19:15; 2 Chron. 2:2; Ez. 5:11; Psalms 69:34; 115:15; 121:2; 124:8; 134:3; 146:6; Isaiah 37:16; Jer. 23:24; 33:25; 4 Ez. 2:14; 6:38; Tob. 7:18; 1 Macc. 2:37; Jud. 7:28; 9:12; Matt. 5:18; 11:25; 24:35; Mark 13:31; Luke 10:21; 16:17; 21:33; Acts 17:24; Rev. 14:7; cf. Matt. 28:18; Eph. 4:8-10; Phil. 2:10; Col. 1:16 – more examples where God distinguishes between “heaven and earth.” The Scriptures clearly teach that the earth is unique among the rest of the universe.

John 17:24 – Jesus says “...behold my glory which thou hast given me in thy love for me before the foundation of the world.” Jesus’ language also suggests a world that has a firm, unmovable foundation. "

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Scriptures and INFO taken from Scripture Catholic . com website (John Salza)

If you are interested, you may view Dr. Robert Sungenis' interview in this YOU TUBE video --->

[youtube]I73hycfdViA[/youtube]

Praised be God the Father Who Created all things for His Son, including the EARTH! :crossrc:



A. H. J. E.

After the Heart of Jesus Evangelist
 
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Define "centre of the universe." If you mean in a theologically metaphorical sense, that as far as the relationship between man and God is concerned and as far as we know based on the limited revelation of Scripture, the Earth is the focal point of God's interaction with creation, then yes, okay, I think you could say that the Earth is the centre of the universe.


If, however, you mean that the Earth is literally physically smack dab in the middle of the universe, then no, of course I don't believe that, and none of the passages you brought up support that notion at all.
 
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Define "centre of the universe." If you mean in a theologically metaphorical sense, that as far as the relationship between man and God is concerned and as far as we know based on the limited revelation of Scripture, the Earth is the focal point of God's interaction with creation, then yes, okay, I think you could say that the Earth is the centre of the universe.


If, however, you mean that the Earth is literally physically smack dab in the middle of the universe, then no, of course I don't believe that, and none of the passages you brought up support that notion at all.

Hm ... you seem very sure of yourself about rejecting the physical centrality of the earth in the universe. What makes you so sure? Does the Bible deny it?
 
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I believe as the Early Church Fathers believed based firmly upon the Word of God. The EARTH is the very center of the whole universe.

Please provide book and verse number in scripture which states the earth is the very center of the whole universe.
 
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Have you viewed the video?

I have provided verses already.

The video is not the word of God, and the verses you provided do not state the earth is the very center of the whole universe.

So why ask if we believe what the Bible says about the earth being the very center of the whole universe, if the Bible does not say that? :confused:
 
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The video is not the word of God, and the verses you provided do not state the earth is the very center of the whole universe.

So why ask if we believe what the Bible says about the earth being the very center of the whole universe, if the Bible does not say that? :confused:

The Bible does show that the earth does not move through space.

That is something that scientists have not been able to show either (that the earth moves through space).

I said what I said to challenge the naive trust that people put on the modern educational system's agenda to belittle Geocentrism and to pump up the Copernican Principle. If you go by this then I feel you are being cheated out of making your OWN decision about the real relationship and position of the earth to the whole universe.

Are we in some "random" place in the sea of space?

OR

Are we in the center of the universe?

That is the question.
 
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The Bible does show that the earth does not move through space.

That is something that scientists have not been able to show either (that the earth moves through space).

I said what I said to challenge the naive trust that people put on the modern educational system's agenda to belittle Geocentrism and to pump up the Copernican Principle. If you go by this then I feel you are being cheated out of making your OWN decision about the real relationship and position of the earth to the whole universe.

Are we in some "random" place in the sea of space?

OR

Are we in the center of the universe?

That is the question.


we areat the milky way and we aren't in the middle of space . The reason why is the mass of the sun keeps the earth from flying off.

I mean people still think the earth is flat. I mean lookat this website

Psalms 136:6
to him who spread out the earth upon the waters, for his steadfast love endures forever;

Isaiah 44:24
Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, who formed you from the womb; "I am the Lord, who made all things, who stretched out the heavens alone, who spread out the earth -- Who was with me? --

If the earth were spherical, one would use a verb other than "spread out" to describe its creation (balled up, gathered up, gathered together, anything but spread out). One might say they "spread out" batter to make pancakes but no one would ever say they "spread out" hamburger to make meatballs. The earth in the Bible was "spread out" because it is flat.


The bible was written in Hebrew and Greek.
 
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