NM Supreme Court: Christian Photographers Can't Refuse Gay Weddings

[Archaeopteryx]

No one reconsiders their religious beliefs because they happen to encounter militant liberals

Is anyone asking you to reconsider your religious beliefs? No, they're asking to do your job - the job of a wedding photographer.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

The photographer was exercising her religious beliefs. And you say that isn't a 1st Amendment issue?

If religious beliefs prevent her from being a wedding photographer, then perhaps she shouldn't be one?

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Non sequiturs do not apply here.

When Christians argue that Christians must cater to homosexuals, can not be opposed to their sinful sexual behaviors, etc... they're arguing against the scriptures that condemn sinful fornication. Attempting to rewrite scripture by arguing sinful fornication no longer is condemned is not Biblical, nor is it in keeping with God's laws such as when God said to be holy because he is holy. Holiness does not act as a proponent for sin.

In rewriting those scriptures then it becomes necessary to show their counter. In other words, those scriptures that legitimize homosexuality, when Christians attempt to say homosexuality (the sex act itself) is not a sin.

Doesn't the Bible also condemn fornication among heterosexual couples? Should the wedding photographer ask her customers whether they are engaged in pre-marital sex? Or is being gay the only sin that she should single out?

 

[MachZer0]

Doesn't the Bible also condemn fornication among heterosexual couples? Should the wedding photograph ask her customers whether they are engaged in pre-marital sex? Or is being gay the only sin that she should single out?

The ceremony she was asked if she would object to was a celebration of sin in her view. Couples who engage in premarital sex who then have a wedding are ending their sin, which is something to celebrate

 

[Archaeopteryx]

The ceremony she was asked if she would object to was a celebration of sin in her view. Couples who engage in premarital sex who then have a wedding are ending their sin, which is something to celebrate

What a pitiful excuse!

 

[Armoured]

Why should a photographer be forced into taking photos of any wedding, is the question here. Should we force a black photographer to take photos of a KKK rally? Or a Jewish photographer to snap photos of Neo-Nazi event? Forget citing the Bible a a reason here. Is it right to force someone, regardless of whether or not they are providing a service to the public, to participate in an event that makes them feel uncomfortable?

Ah, crux issue. Is it right to allow people to deny service to someone they have a moral objection to? Society and the law, generally says no. And if a commercial photographer who happens to be Jewish were hired by the KKK, I'd say the same to them, too.

I would like to reiterate my original point, however, that given how easy it would be for any given artist to make a mess of a commission, I'm not quite sure why a client would WANT to hire an artist who had made it clear they had some sort of issue with the client. But, as others have said, if its a case of "only game in town", or the client wants the services of a particularly well thought of artist, I guess it makes sense.

I don't think anyone is being hypocritical here, either. I'd support a white supremacist demanding the services of a black wedding photographer here too, or, indeed, a KKK wedding photographer being hired for a black person's wedding. If you offer a commercial service, you're not allowed to discriminate against people because of their beliefs or lifestyle choices. Its really simple as that.

 

[MachZer0]

What a pitiful excuse!

It's the law suit that's pitiful, denying a photographers civil rights

 

[BlunderAngel]

Doesn't the Bible also condemn fornication among heterosexual couples? Should the wedding photographer ask her customers whether they are engaged in pre-marital sex? Or is being gay the only sin that she should single out?

Are there any passages in scripture that legitimize heterosexual marriage?

 

[Bedford]

Are there any passages in scripture that legitimize heterosexual marriage?

Please point out the part in the Bible where it says that Christians must refuse to offer a service they provide because the person requesting the service is gay?

 

[MachZer0]

Please point out the part in the Bible where it says that Christians must refuse to offer a service they provide because the person requesting the service is gay?

Asked and answered

 

[morningstar2651]

Is it okay to photograph a non-Christian wedding? After all, isn't that person violating one of the 10 commandments by worshiping another god?

 

[BlunderAngel]

Please point out the part in the Bible where it says that Christians must refuse to offer a service they provide because the person requesting the service is gay?

Asked and answered

Yes.

 

[BlunderAngel]

Is it okay to photograph a non-Christian wedding? After all, isn't that person violating one of the 10 commandments by worshiping another god?

There are laws that say those people should be killed as well when they worship other gods. But we don't do that today because those are the OT moral laws and many of which were fulfilled by Jesus in the new testament.

However, commands regarding sexual morality, and immoral sexual sin, continued in the new testament and it is those that relate to this topic of conversation.

 

[Bedford]

Yes.

You never answered.

 

[Bedford]

Is it okay to photograph a non-Christian wedding? After all, isn't that person violating one of the 10 commandments by worshiping another god?

They pick and choose what they want to violate. Surely we should not hold them to the double standards put forth.

 

[BlunderAngel]

You never answered.

What does waving mean?
Yes I did. As have others in this thread. Were those answers not sufficient?

 

[Bedford]

What does waving mean?
Yes I did. As have others in this thread. Were those answers not sufficient?

Sure.

 

[MachZer0]

Please point out the part in the Bible where it says that Christians must refuse to offer a service they provide because the person requesting the service is gay?

And for the record, she didn't refuse service because the prospective client was homosexual, she refused because the ceremony was to celebrate a homosexual commitment

 

[MachZer0]

Is it okay to photograph a non-Christian wedding? After all, isn't that person violating one of the 10 commandments by worshiping another god?

Which god would non-christians be celebrating in a wedding ceremony?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Which god would non-christians be celebrating in a wedding ceremony?

Ganesh, for example

"Ganesh Puja (Prayer to Lord Ganesh)
All auspicious ceremonies begin with a prayer to Lord Ganesh requesting him to remove any obstacles which may arise during the ceremony. "