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Literal Flood believers, some questions

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I sincerely ask these to learn how you address them and your reasoning.

1) How do trace fossils (like burrows, footprints, feeding traces, etc), remain preserved within the units supposedly deposited in the flood?

2) How do coprolites get preserved in layers supposedly deposited during the flood? (as they imply life was still alive and not buried)

3) If the mountains were made during the receding of the flood waters, how would they have been able to remain standing if they are dominantly marine rocks? (like the Himalayas) Angle of repose

4) If the mountains all rose at once or rose at an increased rate, how is this physically possible?

5) Why do the current mountains rise as a result of the interaction with plate tectonics and have nothing to do with water?

6) Why are there no stragglers in the fossil record of organisms that dominate the uppermost layers in the bottommost layers?

7) Why is there no single continuous section of the flood anywhere on Earth?

8) If the sedimentary rocks (like those in the Grand Canyon) are deposited during a flood, how is it that they transition from marine to land and back to marine, during the period they are supposed to have been deposited by flood waters?

9) How did the banded iron formations form?

10) How are the glacial deposits that precede the flood, explained?

11) How are the glacial deposits within the flood explained?
 
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I sincerely ask these to learn how you address them and your reasoning.
The Mesopotamia flood of Noah was a shadow and type of the world wide flood that took place at the break up of Pangaea over 200 million years ago. An ice age followed this flood. Most of your questions could be answered through a study of plate tectonics.
 
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The Mesopotamia flood of Noah was a shadow and type of the world wide flood that took place at the break up of Pangaea over 200 million years ago. An ice age followed this flood. Most of your questions could be answered through a study of plate tectonics.

Indeed, I must second the request as to where you get the idea that there was a global flood upon the breakup of pangaea. Also, would there have been one at the breakup of rodinia?
 
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What book did you get that lot from? and what religion believes that?
I get that from Kat Kerr, I am not sure which one of her books. As far as I know she is Word of Faith. People have put a lot of her stuff on the internet. She highly recommends that people visit creation lab. Of course it is in heaven so that maybe a problem for some people. Here is a little bit about what she teaches.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7709517-19/#post62075189
 
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So when you get to heaven do you think word of faith people will be in one section and baptists will be in another section?

QV please:

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I sincerely ask these to learn how you address them and your reasoning.

1) How do trace fossils (like burrows, footprints, feeding traces, etc), remain preserved within the units supposedly deposited in the flood?

At places where the flood water rose really slow and gentle.
 
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At places where the flood water rose really slow and gentle.

Right. The flood waters rose really slowly and gentle to cover 5 mile tall mountains in 40 days.

30,000/40 ~ 750 ft/day. 750/24 ~ 30 ft/hr.

6 inches per minute

Yeah. Nice and slow there.
 
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At places where the flood water rose really slow and gentle.


Go outside and find a patch of mud, make a footprint, then dump water on it to simulate torrential rains and see what is left.

How does massive amount of water = preservation of charcoal and different intervals?
 
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It's always interesting how "Kat Kerr says" will slowly transform into "God says".
Could be, isn't that what happened to Dante's Inferno? With Kat Kerr I checked to see if what she teaches conflicts with science. Esp regarding the breakup of Pangaea. As far as I can tell none of what she says conflicts with science in anyway. Which is rather amazing because she has never studied any of the science. Also she has a very happy message. Something to make people feel good. Even if you regard it as 100% fiction. I just do not see any problem.
 
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Could be, isn't that what happened to Dante's Inferno? With Kat Kerr I checked to see if what she teaches conflicts with science. Esp regarding the breakup of Pangaea. As far as I can tell none of what she says conflicts with science in anyway. Which is rather amazing because she has never studied any of the science. Also she has a very happy message. Something to make people feel good. Even if you regard it as 100% fiction. I just do not see any problem.


Forgive me for being a bit obtuse but, I don't see a happy message or a happy way of discussing an event like "the Flood" if it were true.

It could be discussed matter-of-factly, but hardly in a happy context.
 
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Forgive me for being a bit obtuse but, I don't see a happy message or a happy way of discussing an event like "the Flood" if it were true.

It could be discussed matter-of-factly, but hardly in a happy context.
Sure it could.

Matthew 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

The Flood came and washed all the gay people away.
 
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Right. The flood waters rose really slowly and gentle to cover 5 mile tall mountains in 40 days.

30,000/40 ~ 750 ft/day. 750/24 ~ 30 ft/hr.

6 inches per minute

Yeah. Nice and slow there.

How do you know there were 5 foot tall mountains before the flood?
 
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Not only does it make people feel good it also makes them feel content with things as they are,
which means they stop searching for real answers to real questions, most Christians are not very smart,
they will accept things about their religion they would never accept in other parts of their life,
their religion gets a free ride from their brain which is just how the professional Christians like it.
Eyes barn ignit, eyes die ignit.
 
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I sincerely ask these to learn how you address them and your reasoning.

1) How do trace fossils (like burrows, footprints, feeding traces, etc), remain preserved within the units supposedly deposited in the flood?

Dear TBD, You are confused again. There was Never a Global Flood on our Earth. It was Adam's Earth which was literally dissolved in the Flood.

2) How do coprolites get preserved in layers supposedly deposited during the flood? (as they imply life was still alive and not buried)

There was NO Flood on our Earth.

3) If the mountains were made during the receding of the flood waters, how would they have been able to remain standing if they are dominantly marine rocks? (like the Himalayas) Angle of repose

4) If the mountains all rose at once or rose at an increased rate, how is this physically possible?

5) Why do the current mountains rise as a result of the interaction with plate tectonics and have nothing to do with water?

6) Why are there no stragglers in the fossil record of organisms that dominate the uppermost layers in the bottommost layers?

7) Why is there no single continuous section of the flood anywhere on Earth?

8) If the sedimentary rocks (like those in the Grand Canyon) are deposited during a flood, how is it that they transition from marine to land and back to marine, during the period they are supposed to have been deposited by flood waters?

9) How did the banded iron formations form?

10) How are the glacial deposits that precede the flood, explained?

11) How are the glacial deposits within the flood explained?

The answer to ALL these questions is that you have confused the first world with the present one. Read about the world that "THEN WAS" in ll Peter 3:3-7. It also tells you of the burning end of our own Cosmos.

In Love,
Aman
 
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Sure it could.

Matthew 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

The Flood came and washed all the gay people away.

I nearly fell out of my chair! That's the funniest thing I have heard in a long time.
 
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