An atheists world

[Valiantis]

No worries. Turns out there is no evidence of hell.

That's what he said (the rich man) right before he died.

And it turned out he was right, hell is all in the imagination, for there to be good there must be bad.
What would we do without our dreams.
Christians are told to fight the good fight, so far all we have been able to do is talk the good fight.

 

[EternalDragon]

And it turned out he was right, hell is all in the imagination, for there to be good there must be bad.
What would we do without our dreams.
Christians are told to fight the good fight, so far all we have been able to do is talk the good fight.

What are you on about? Speak plainly.

I and others have experienced things that would indicate everything described in the bible is real. You are entitled not to believe the historical reports, if that is your choice, but opinion does not make it true or false.

 

[Valiantis]

I and others have experienced things that would indicate everything described in the bible is real.

You and others have had feeling you all attribute to the supernatural for no reason other than you want to.
There are no historical reports, there are manufactured reports made by professional Christians to give the impression that there is evidence for the beliefs you have but there are none, how do I know? because if there was evidence for a God there would be no reason to have faith, faith is used because there is no evidence.

 

[EternalDragon]

You and others have had feeling you all attribute to the supernatural for no reason other than you want to.
There are no historical reports.

These experiences were not feelings.

If there are no historical reports what do you base your Christian faith on?

 

[Valiantis]

These experiences were not feelings.

What would you call them then?

If there are no historical reports what do you base your Christian faith on?

If you had historical reports why would you need faith?
You are not thinking this through are you?

 

[TheBeardedDude]

the Bible is not a science textbook, it relays scientific information in one form....but not as a textbook. It would not be for "everybody" if it was a science textbook. I think you misunderstand this. You asked for evidence I provided it to you. God is outside of time, thats what the Bible says. If He is or is not massless isn't a Biblical concept but a physics one. If you are outside of time, you have no mass. E=MC2. Right? This means that God probably exists in a dimension higher than ours (up to 26) so far counted. The three dimensions we live in plus time is four dimensions only. "26 dimensional space" time is not an accurate description. Those are your words. Time is only one dimension space is probably more like 3 or more not the whole 26. See you have an oreo composed of creme and cookie......but to say I have a oreo cream cookie, doesn't really sound right. It's just an oreo, it's cream and it's a cookie....two of those things make up the third.

1. How do you reconcile what science knows that contradicts the bible, while trying to also say science supports the bible?

2. If God knew his perfect message for man would one day be used as means of scientific interpretation, would it be wise to explicitly exclude it?

3. Knowing that science would seek to explain the universe, hey not appear during the periods of mankind where we were doing science?

4. Where is the evidence for the 26 dimensions you speak of?

5. Where is the evidence for anything outside of this universe existing?

 

[Delphiki]

A omnipresent, omnipotent God whose creation is always said to be a world with mistakes. Yet, Christians know God knows the beginning and the end, that God has purpose for everything. I would like to hear how someone (atheist, or anyone), how they would do it differently; and let both science and theology pick apart at the suggestions based on facts today.

You're already living in an atheist universe. What do you think would be different if there was a god?

 

[AV1611VET]

What do you think would be different if there was a god?

If it wasn't for God, there would be no atheists.

 

[Valiantis]

You're already living in an atheist universe. What do you think would be different if there was a god?

Or for the believer.
You are already living in an atheist universe.
What do you think would be different if there was no god?

 

[Valiantis]

If it wasn't for God, there would be no atheists.

That is most definitely true and if there were no Christians there would be no Bibles or no Bibles no Christians.
'If' is a very big word.

 

[AV1611VET]

What do you think would be different if there was no god?

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[Valiantis]

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You do not respond but you want others to respond.
I think we should start calling you Fred Astaire.

 

[AV1611VET]

You do not respond but you want others to respond.

You want me to respond?

Fine, I'll respond -- but I think my answer should be obvious, don't you?

No God = no universe.

 

[Valiantis]

You want me to respond?

Fine, I'll respond -- but I think my answer should be obvious, don't you?

No God = no universe.

Wrong... No Man = No God.

 

[AV1611VET]

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[AV1611VET]

No Man = No God.

And man exists, doesn't he?

 

[Valiantis]

And man exists, doesn't he?

You have got me there man does exist, but does that mean everthing men can imagine also exists?
does Zeus and Allah exist?

 

[AV1611VET]

You have got me there man does exist, but does that mean everthing men can imagine also exists?

No.

 

[Valiantis]

No.

Just your God.

 

[AV1611VET]

Just your God.

He's your God -- my Father.

Jesus only called Him "God" one time while He (Jesus) was here.

If you knew why, you would know what I'm getting at.