The books of Hebrews and Revelation prove the unchangeableness of God's Holy Law. (2)

[from scratch]

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. John 5:24

It must be understood along with this text:

For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. Colossians 3:3

It is Christ Jesus that lives eternally, and those which are dead, are asleep "in the grave" [Ecclesiastes 9:10], all their "thoughts perish[ed]" [Psalms 146:4], and so the "...dead in Christ shall rise first." [1 Thessalonians 4:16] which is at "...his appearing..." [2 Timothy 4:8], which is the moment then that they shall "Awake and sing", them that had previously "...dwel[t] in dust..." [Isaiah 26:19], not dwelling in Heaven.

Therefore, it is eternal life, since Christ Jesus [who is the Head] can no longer die ["...dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him." Romans 6:9], for eternal life is "through" [Romans 6:23] Him.

Those which died "in him" even "...all live unto him." [Luke 20:38]. When shall they be resurrected? At the last day, when the heavens are no more [parted as a scroll], those* which have died in Him, shall be raised from their sleep [Job 14:12; Luke 20:35], "...the dead shall be raised incorruptible..." [1 Corinthians 15:52].

The death Jesus speaks of in John 5:24, is the 2nd Death, and the related "judgment" is the executive Judgment, after the 1,000 years, known as the Great White Throne Judgment, which is for the wicked, and the promise to not enter into it, is conditional based upon what one continually and stedfastly "believeth" [true Biblical Faith, not merely mental ascent, but the Faith which produces, that faith which is demonstrable...]. John 5:25,28-29, is clear that Jesus refering to the same things as found in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, etc.

It is not a once only belief, but to be a continually burning and vibrant faith, even unto the first death if necessary:

Joh 11:25 ειπενG3004 V-2AAI-3S αυτηG846 P-DSF οG3588 T-NSM ιησουςG2424 N-NSM εγωG1473 P-1NS ειμιG1510 V-PAI-1S ηG3588 T-NSF αναστασιςG386 N-NSF καιG2532 CONJ ηG3588 T-NSF ζωηG2222 N-NSF οG3588 T-NSM πιστευωνG4100 V-PAP-NSM ειςG1519 PREP εμεG1473 P-1AS κανG2579 COND-K αποθανηG599 V-2AAS-3S ζησεταιG2198 V-FDI-3S

Joh 11:26 καιG2532 CONJ παςG3956 A-NSM οG3588 T-NSM ζωνG2198 V-PAP-NSM καιG2532 CONJ πιστευωνG4100 V-PAP-NSM ειςG1519 PREP εμεG1473 P-1AS ουG3756 PRT-N μηG3361 PRT-N αποθανηG599 V-2AAS-3S ειςG1519 PREP τονG3588 T-ASM αιωναG165 N-ASM πιστευειςG4100 V-PAI-2S τουτοG3778 D-ASN

V-PAP-NSM - Robinson's Morphological Analysis Codes
Tense: Present
Voice: Active
Mood: Participle
Case: Nominative
Number: Singular
Gender: Masculine

and this "presnt tense" being "continuous action; habitual action; often refelcts a lifestyle" - Greek Quick Reference Guide

...and so, yes I wholly and continually believe with all my heart, soul, strength, that even this very moment, that even if I die in it, as it is written, "even if he dies" [first death, sleep in the dust], that I "will live" [future tense, that is will come to live] again at the resurrection, but I am even moreso looking to be one of those that are translated without seeing death, being faithful in life by Him, being a chosen vessel of the mercy and grace of God, a brand plucked from the burning, believing He will be save to the uttermost, and not to the almost... and so therefore, in either case, seeing the first death or remaining with those on the earth at His coming, being then he calls those who have died in Him, yet live unto Him, unto life once more, I shall not taste of the 2nd death, to which Jesus refers when he says, "...who lives and believes in Me will never die"...

"...He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death." [Revelation 2:11]

...therefore the investigative judgment determines whether or not I have this continually demonstrated and Biblical faith, burning with Holy fire and living by the power and life of God...

...many claiming to be Christians, claiming to be earing Christ's character, claiming to be His followers but there is not fruit, there is only the "Lord, lord" hypocrisy of the pharisee, the mere outward adorning of the sheep, but inside are ravening wolves. There are tares among the wheat, and the harvest at the end will make sure that there is no tares gathered unto Jesus with the Wheat... this investigative judgment is necessary in the time of the Anti-typical Day of atonement, even as it was in type then:

And [this] shall be a statute for ever unto you: [that] in the seventh month, on the tenth [day] of the month, ye shall afflict your souls, and do no work at all, [whether it be] one of your own country, or a stranger that sojourneth among you: Leviticus 16:29

...it is a very serious matter, for it deals with the commandments of God. We claim to take upon ourselves the name of God... yet if we do not lives lives in harmony with such a perfect character as His, then we are but mere hypocrites...

Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; 2 Corinthians 10:5

The life I've entered into is not like the physical one I now have. I currently live in a physical body. In eternity I will also have a physical body capable of eating solid food just like Jesus did. It will also be able to enter sealed rooms just like Jesus did. It will be able to speak and cook fish just like Jesus did after the resurrection.

 

[Leuko Petra]

I'm not watching a video, just type out who else is involved...

If you will not, others will watch...

...Unfallen Angels, Heavenly intelligences/beings, the watchers, from the other unfallen worlds...

...they cannot read the heart as God can.

Sin was expelled from Heaven, it will not be allowed to enter therein any more.

...this is the reason for the books of records... which we have already discussed.

 

[Keachian]

<snip>

You have provided no evidence for me to reject my monergistic beliefs.

 

[from scratch]

So then do you believe that Israel didn't have grace?

Do you mind showing me in the law where grace is provided for? All those who found mercy in God's sight found it contrary to the law. You are really asking if grace wasn't active. To which I have to say grace was certainly active. It always disregarded the law.

Now let me ask you once again why you brought up the fact that David sinned and yet lived? I personally think it is to manipulate, obligate and therefore force God to do your will offered as an excuse to be justified. This would go right along with your idea of Rev 22:14. Jesus has nothing to do with your right to enter heaven meaning one doesn't have to go through Him like He says. Jesus calls you a thief in John 10. Read it for yourself.

This means that Jesus was giving a fool his answer when He said one can have eternal life by keeping the Ten Commandments in Mat 19, MK 10 and LK 18. You seem to forget about PS 14, 53 and Rom 3:23. You forget that wages (obligated reward) is death.

No one can justify themselves in anyway. One can only accept the free gift to enter heaven.

At the judgment will you quote Rev 22:14 to God or will your only defense be Jesus? Every answer I would give would be Jesus.

Freedom, rest and liberty are absolutely marvelous and awesome.

 

[MoreCoffee]

You have provided no evidence for me to reject my monergistic beliefs.

Flee (or is that flea ) monergism!

 

[Leuko Petra]

Your concept of life and death is skewed. ...

How so? Please explain.

A question: "Will Jesus separate the Wheat from the Tares, [1] before, [2] during or [3] sometime after His Second Advent?" Please provide scripture with your answer, thank you.

 

[Leuko Petra]

You have provided no evidence for me to reject my monergistic beliefs.

So, you believe in 'rape' salvation?

 

[from scratch]

The highest esteem or even summation of the Law was given by Jesus through the golden two. Was not Jesus a teacher to help us find our way to our Father? It is our Faith in him with his sent Holy Spirit living within us for all eternity that allows us to walk in God's favor. I don't chase after the mystery of the Law or hide from condemnation of it, for it is by faith that we believe and follow Christ Jesus. I would think that Jesus is the Law to us, that we should obey him and follow him to our Father.

You know as confusing as everything is, especially when you throw in theologies, like Trinity, are we expected to be able to follow Jesus correctly and make it with our faith? If we belong to God, then we will understand Jesus and be able to follow him. However, what about our mistakes. What about the 33,000 denominations and their mistakes? Since they all can't be right then they all must be in error. They pit one against the other and fail to be known by their love for one another. We are expected to be known by our love. Plain and simple. Why aren't we expected to be known by our knowledge, such as God's Law? Maybe because God's Law is love or die. Also plain and simple.

Such an argument is about the religion of fools and has nothing to do with salvation.

 

[Keachian]

Flee (or is that flea ) monergism!

Considering their main complaint about monergism can largely be summed up to the Pelagian argument from the Pelagian-Augustinian controversy we should both agree. If I was to give up my Reformed monergism I'd probably end up closer to a Lutheran soteriology anyway.

 

[Keachian]

So, you believe in 'rape' salvation?

I believe God will save whom he wills. If you want to construe that negatively all the more power to you. But I don't believe that it is a bad thing that God would save someone by changing their will because there is no way for them to be saved otherwise.

 

[from scratch]

We do disagree on certain parts of doctrine. And yes I do agree with him that the SDA view of sanctuary is wrong.

If you want to, but you really werent of much use there either. You just said I was wrong and pretty much left it at that.

Well a 19thC prophet at least, she is the standard and you conform your beliefs to hers.

Yes, Acts 2, seriously is there no end of you trying to push things out of where the Apostles saw their fulfillment? Of course everything has it's exception, especially when it comes to EGW for you

This was a very difficult problem in my upbringing. Everything was wrong and there was never any instruction in what was right. Here one is wrong and not given any reasonable or acceptable solutions. Oh to take someone's ideas and make them your own is offered. Problem is they don't line up with the Bible. Of course I'm speaking of the folks who consistently say your wrong. Look for yourself and see who these people are. But what can one expect of a legalist saying they follow a legal system. Yet they want grace and mercy (exception and variance from) when it comes to administration of that law. Why is this? Why is Jesus refused - Mat 11:28-30?

Why live in fear when one can believe and accept John 5:24 as fact?

Anyone besides me puzzled?

 

[Leuko Petra]

Love has no obligation.

That is not the Biblical definition of Love. Love is obligated, it is dutiful. The blessed chain and bond of selflessness, selfless service. It sees the necessary need and springs into action from its own obligation, obliged to give all.

God is Love. God saw our dire plight long before we even existed, and since God is love, provided the way home...

Therefore, please do not tell me that Love has no obligation, it is selfless, serves all - which is why I prefer the old KJV "charity" over the simple word love [which has lost its meaning these days, and people make it mean whatever they wish, whenever they desire].

Lust has no obligation, as it is purely selfish, serves only self, but not even in a good way, but the way of corruption and destruction, internally consuming itself, it even hates itself.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Considering their main complaint about monergism can largely be summed up to the Pelagian argument from the Pelagian-Augustinian controversy we should both agree. If I was to give up my Reformed monergism I'd probably end up closer to a Lutheran soteriology anyway.

I reckon we'd all agree that no one saves themselves. We'd also agree that God saves us. But when we get into details about who does what and when and if will is free or not and all that then agreement will fall apart. It's the details that dissolve unity into endless quarrels.

 

[Leuko Petra]

So we don't possess the Kingdom? Even though Christ's message was behold the Kingdom is at hand, and displayed this through his ministry, it was immediate it was not far off, when we enter into Christ, we enter into the Kingdom, Christ is King and he reigns from on high.

Kingdom of Grace, with a Throne of Grace [now], and a Kingdom of Power and Glory, with the Throne of Glory [yet to come]...

 

[VictorC]

Wrong is wrong no matter what the popular opinion says. That's why I dismiss Tall's comments. I've talked with him at length and he is flat out wrong. He agrees with that which he once stood against. It's very sad honestly.

Here's what you had claimed prior to me offering a mini-biography of this member:

Tall73 is wrong. His understanding of this teaching and the sanctuary is flawed.

As a graduate of the Adventist seminary and someone who has had to respond to several dissertations on the SDA Sanctuary Doctrine, Tall73 and his wife have displayed a unique ability to produce materials published by your own church as well as Biblical responses to that material. Their knowledge base far exceeds anyone else's on this forum, which came from personal investment of time and effort to reconcile this doctrine with Scripture. To say that his understanding of the doctrine is 'flawed' without citing any error in what he's produced is a knee-jerk emotional response that is consistent with everything else you post. Coming from you, it becomes an endorsement of what he's posted.

Within the last few days, I have seen you contradict Scripture, Ellen White, Willie White, and even yourself. However, the last nail in your coffin came after I asked you to reconcile the premise of the Investigative Judgment with God's promise to His redeemed "Their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more". After all, it isn't possible to convene a judgment when the Judge won't allow the introduction of the evidence defined in Ellen's constraints:

• Convened only after 1844, 'it is...in 1844...to perform the work of investigative judgment'
• The accused are judged according to the old covenant, 'The law of God is the standard'

Instead of reconciling your pet doctrine with God's promise to us, you offered 1 Peter 4:17 in an attempt to annul His promise. The mention of the time frame in this verse contradicts the first bullet above by present-tense time long before 1844. The context surrounding this verse shows that it isn't a judgment made by God on those in the church. I mentioned this context to you, to which you said I was wrong without any indication you even looked at the context.

Regardless of whatever interpretation you force on this verse, you have come to a position where you concluded Scripture contradicts Scripture, and the promises of God are null and void. Instead of reconciling your doctrine with Scripture, you've instead placed yourself against Scripture.

Forget about the Investigative Judgment, which you can't support anyway.
Your contention that God is wrong forces a conclusion that Stryder06 is wrong. Fatally wrong, when what you've rejected is God's promises to us.
Others have also noticed that your response to call everyone and everything outside of your emotionally driven opinion 'wrong', so it isn't something I imagined. Calling God's promise 'wrong' is in diametric opposition to the task of reconciliation you were given. You are wrong.

 

[from scratch]

That is not the Biblical definition of Love. Love is obligated, it is dutiful. The blessed chain and bond of selflessness, selfless service. It sees the necessary need and springs into action from its own obligation, obliged to give all.

God is Love. God saw our dire plight long before we even existed, and since God is love, provided the way home...

Therefore, please do not tell me that Love has no obligation, it is selfless, serves all - which is why I prefer the old KJV "charity" over the simple word love [which has lost its meaning these days, and people make it mean whatever they wish, whenever they desire].

Lust has no obligation, as it is purely selfish, serves only self, but not even in a good way, but the way of corruption and destruction, internally consuming itself, it even hates itself.

Suppose you tell me how God is obligated to mankind.

Love does things but isn't obligate to do them. Obligation is because one is hired. It doesn't matter what the wages are.

Love isn't selfish, but it still isn't obligated to anything.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by progmonk

So we don't possess the Kingdom? Even though Christ's message was behold the Kingdom is at hand, and displayed this through his ministry, it was immediate it was not far off, when we enter into Christ, we enter into the Kingdom, Christ is King and he reigns from on high.
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Excellent!

Kingdom of Grace, with a Throne of Grace [now], and a Kingdom of Power and Glory, with the Throne of Glory [yet to come]...

So what are you saying that is any different than what progmonk posted?
You don't believe the Kingdom of God is here now?

Kindgdom Bible Studies Kingdom of God Part 1
THE KINGDOM OF GOD

Part 1 ​

It is significant to note that the phrases “Kingdom of God” and “Kingdom of Heaven” are not to be found in the Old Testament. They are strictly New Testament terms beginning with John the Baptist and Jesus. When Jesus came He did not preach a message called grace, or salvation, or justification, or sanctification, or regeneration, or even the Church. Could there be any more glorious message than the one that fell from His lips as He began His sonship ministry declaring, “The KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND!”
From that time forward the great teaching of the Lord centered in the truth of THE KINGDOM. His gospel was the gospel (good news) of the Kingdom of God. He only lightly touched on the other subjects which today are considered the great doctrines of the Church and then only as they related to the Kingdom.
All of these things are included within the Kingdom, but the Kingdom is none of them. The Kingdom is THE RULE OF GOD. It is the DOMINION OF GOD. That is exactly what it is.

And Jesus came with just that message — the revelation of the RULE OF GOD within the hearts of men, and through men, over the earth, yea, over the whole vast universe! First He must reign completely in our lives. The Kingdom of God is God in Christ in the saints governing the creation of God. The rule of God begins in the hearts of His elect.



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[Stephen Kendall]

Such an argument is about the religion of fools and has nothing to do with salvation.

Thank you for commenting, though your comment puzzles me. Perhaps you can expand some.

Christianity is about following Jesus and not following churches or its leaders, right? That is why some claim to be followers of Christ Jesus and not a church or like being referred to as Christian.

What seems to be unchangeable in Law is Christ, not Moses. So to be a follower of Christ is unchangeable, but a follower of Moses is subordinate to obeying Jesus. It is our faith that directs our course. The thing that people seem to miss is "that how you believe, that is how you must follow" and you must follow in a way that does not hurt your brothers & sisters, unselfish commitments & conduct.

It is interesting that Jesus brought us his Father's Holy Law. Yet how many people understand what he taught? This is why we each need to think & ask of God with the help of His Holy Spirit living within us our questions and for our needs. Paul said for each of us to work out our own salvations. Why? Jesus taught in a way as a good teacher would do to get their students to think and understand. Thinking seems to be a distraction to the institutional control of people through churches & leaders. It isn't encouraged. I believe that Jesus heavily encouraged us to think and get right with our Father through righteousness (stop sinning, repent and living morally with Jesus' love within us). I have people in many different churches pulling me left and right with their follow the leader mentality, only their leader isn't Jesus, or even close. Who is the leader of the distractions away from the Gospel's message to us?

I love to spend time with groups of people to discuss Christ and his Gospel with them. I get inspired to help others to see more closely Jesus' beautiful Gospel to us. We need this closeness and fellowship to enrich our lives with God. I always get the distractions and harshness of relentless unthinking officiators of the Law thrown at me. I go to all churches and will not claim any. I love people and not institutions who haven't a clue as to the will of God, for they go left and right away from Jesus. How can I see and so many not? The older I get the more easily it seems to know these things. Have that many people (especially in leadership positions) missed the boat?

 

[Leuko Petra]

I believe God will save whom he wills. If you want to construe that negatively all the more power to you. But I don't believe that it is a bad thing that God would save someone by changing their will because there is no way for them to be saved otherwise.

That false 'predestination gospel' [the very core of OSAS] is actually not only 'rape' it makes God 'arbitrary' [a respecter of persons, favortism, and cruel - "I will forcefully [no matter what they desire, 'irresistibly'] 'save' whom I will, and others can rot."] and is also arrogantly 'presumptuous' [and if you continue to believe it you will, not might or maybe, will be lost, as the scripture teaches] to think you are to be included in the 'saved' portion, simply by self definition, by declaring you are simply one of them, etc...

It flies in the face of numerous texts concerning the will of God in the salvation of men, the least of which is not:

Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 1 Timothy 2:4

And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all [men] unto me. John 12:32

Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I [am] God, and [there is] none else. Isaiah 45:22

...as the history of the event with Moses and the bronze serpent, though lifted up for all, some refused to look, they chose not to believe, and perished for their lack of simply looking and believing [Numbers 20:11; John 3:4]...

The great watchword of the Everlasting Gospel is "whosoever", not arbitrary, not predetermined, but provided for all, though all will not accept the gift, some refuse and spurn, others cast it away, others trade it for worldy mammon, etc...

That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. John 3:15

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness. John 12:46

And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. Acts 2:21

As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. Romans 9:33

For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. Romans 10:11

For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:13

...etc...

And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. Revelation 22:17

Many have misunderstood how Paul clearly defined and utilized the words 'predestinated' [Romans 8:29,30; 1 Corinthians 2:7; Ephesians 1:5,11].

How are we "chosen"?

According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Ephesians 1:4

Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, Ephesians 1:5

To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. Ephesians 1:6

...

In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: Ephesians 1:11

That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. Ephesians 1:12

In whom ye also [trusted], after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Ephesians 1:13

We are only "chosen" if we are "in [Christ Jesus]", and this comes by grace through faith, being the gift of God and not of ourselves.

All may choose, all may accept or refuse.

Christ Jesus is the "chosen", and therefore all "whomsoever" "believeth" [continually, perpetually, "unto the end"] "on Him", "shall be saved".

The Sacrifice was provided for all, even for those who will ultimately refuse it.

And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for [the sins of] the whole world. 1 John 2:2

Which is why it is important to understand the plan of salvation given in the Sanctuary, by God, that those which refuse this "propitiation" will have to pay for their sins themselves, having rejected that which was fully provided for by God, "provide Himself a Lamb", the judgment will remain upon them, and those which accepted for awhile but fell away, will have their forgiveness revoked and their sins will fall upon them again, and will pay all, the 2nd death which is the wages for sin.

Brother, you are in great danger... of eternal loss even... I speak to you in love... please, please consider... go back... look again, in prayer, upon your knees, open your Bible... look... ask God, before it is too late... put away what you think you know... or have been taught... [I had to]

 

[Keachian]

This will be my last post defending Reformed Soteriology in this thread it is off topic and if you want to discuss it then please start a new thread.

That false 'predestination gospel' [the very core of OSAS]

Not false, I can go through all the relevant Scriptures and post them but not in this thread. I will give you this though we both disagree with what you are calling OSAS and for the same reason. We both believe that when someone truly comes to believe the Gospel they will be changed. However there are some people that do believe that someone can believe the Gospel and won't be changed one bit, but that they will be saved because they "believe" the Gospel, this position is actually more accurately known as non-Lordship salvation.

is actually not only 'rape' it makes God 'arbitrary' [a respecter of persons, favortism, and cruel - "I will forcefully [no matter what they desire, 'irresistibly'] 'save' whom I will, and others can rot."]

All who come to saving faith desire to be saved because God changed their heart from a stony one turned away from him to one of flesh which is turned towards him, all others do not care for God or to be more accurate hate him.

and is also arrogantly 'presumptuous' [and if you continue to believe it you will, not might or maybe, will be lost, as the scripture teaches] to think you are to be included in the 'saved' portion, simply by self definition, by declaring you are simply one of them, etc...

To be perfectly honest I don't care one jot whether I am saved, what I care about is glorifying God. God will deal justly with me, why worry about something which the Just God has already decided in eternity past.

It flies in the face of numerous texts concerning the will of God in the salvation of men, the least of which is not:

Let's go through these shall we?

Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 1 Timothy 2:4

So do you have a God who wills something which he cannot achieve? Or do you have a God who saves all people?

And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all [men] unto me. John 12:32

So why can't this be talking about judgment?

Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I [am] God, and [there is] none else. Isaiah 45:22

They must look on him to be saved, only some desire and so do look on him to be saved.

...as the history of the event with Moses and the bronze serpent, though lifted up for all, some refused to look, they chose not to believe, and perished for their lack of simply looking and believing [Numbers 20:11; John 3:4]...

ibid.

The great watchword of the Everlasting Gospel is "whosoever", not arbitrary, not predetermined, but provided for all, though all will not accept the gift, some refuse and spurn, others cast it away, others trade it for worldy mammon, etc...

Yes there are only some who desire to believe.

<snip the usual suspects>

These don't deal with who has the desire to be saved.

Many have misunderstood how Paul clearly defined and utilized the words 'predestinated' [Romans 8:29,30; 1 Corinthians 2:7; Ephesians 1:5,11].

How are we "chosen"?

According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Ephesians 1:4

Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, Ephesians 1:5

To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. Ephesians 1:6

...

In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: Ephesians 1:11

That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. Ephesians 1:12

In whom ye also [trusted], after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Ephesians 1:13

We are only "chosen" if we are "in [Christ Jesus]", and this comes by grace through faith, being the gift of God and not of ourselves.

Only when viewed as in Christ can we be chosen. And if as you rightly say faith is a gift from God then how do we suddenly have a desire for him if not that he give us that desire, we were dead in our sins and God made us alive and the only response that we could possibly have (not because we are coerced, but because God is truly love) is to love and have faith that Jesus is the Christ, the high exalted one who reigns on high.

The Sacrifice was provided for all, even for those who will ultimately refuse it.

Then we have to come to the conclusion that God failed at saving someone. To borrow from Yoda, with God there is no try, there is no attempt, he either does, or he does not.

You still have not offered anything of substance to make me discard my Reformed Soteriology, as I said at the start of this post I will not be making any more in this thread, if you want to continue this discussion where you put up strawmen and show your lack of understanding about belief systems apart from your own then please start another thread.